Boy Scouts to allow gay youths to join

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Apparently what we have is moral relativism with a patina of religiosity claiming that the moral law does not bind and that proclaiming the moral truth is hateful. That is typical of the gay agenda.
On the contrary, we have the realization that God is love rather than some antiquated distortion of so-called morality. Centuries ago, gays were hanged. Muslims still do that in places like Iran and praise Allah while murdering God’s creation. For some Christians to be in kinship with savagery is a grievous sin.
 
As a former scout for years, I do understand. I am using Scouts as a whole generally, since practicies varied from den to den, pack to pack, and region to region when I attended. If the issue of sexuality never came up, why is the issue of sexuality being voted on (past tense)?
Pay no attention to reality.
 
Please tell us why 11, 12 and 13-year-olds need identify as “gay” at all.
That’s the point. The fact that we need to have this discussion involving not yet fully mature children is sad and sickening. It is wholly ideological.
 
What a foolish thing to ask. Apparently you do not view homosexual ideology and acts as that immoral.
Oh no, I believe homosexual acts to be intrinsic evils. In fact, I think they are a “sin that cries to heaven for vengeance.” I just don’t believe it is something that can be caught like a cold.

I have no idea what the “homosexual ideology” is. I know some homosexuals that are far more conservative than I am, and some that are far more liberal.
Ah, here comes the usual propaganda. Anything goes because it will happen anyway. Now the argument is not that the new policy is bad but hey so what it happens anyway. Got it.
No, the point was that in your example of the guy talking about dating is that they are going to experience it in school and university. You make it seem like the only place they will come into contact with it is the scouts, which isn’t true.
 
On the contrary, we have the realization that God is love rather than some antiquated distortion of so-called morality. Centuries ago, gays were hanged. Muslims still do that in places like Iran and praise Allah while murdering God’s creation. For some Christians to be in kinship with savagery is a grievous sin.
God is love. Perverted sexual acts are never love.
 
Well… you 're first mistake was guessing what my argument was before I made it. The second mistake was guessing that I was going to make an argument. Let’s not let those details get in the way of a great discussion, right? Were we having a discussion? I don’t remember anymore.

Hey, don’t mind me… go ahead and continue your conversation. I’ll just sit back and watch you discuss the topic with yourself. In fact, I’ll give you my password, and you can post messages for me.

Who are you again?
Wow. Um, ok.

You replied to my question. See: forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=10786586&postcount=186.

Your reply clearly suggested that you felt this was just discrimination, basing it on the difference between false and true compassion. Good thing I didn’t waste 24 minutes of my life looking into youtube videos that you posted, which now seems like was for no apparent reason. Sheesh.
 
God is love. Perverted sexual acts are never love.
You use that word [perverted] a lot. I ask you once again, if your son or daughter was gay would you consider them “perverted”?
 
Oh no, I believe homosexual acts to be intrinsic evils. In fact, I think they are a “sin that cries to heaven for vengeance.” I just don’t believe it is something that can be caught like a cold.
But no one has said that so why the straw man and gay propaganda technique?
I have no idea what the “homosexual ideology” is. I know some homosexuals that are far more conservative than I am, and some that are far more liberal.
Really, so normalization of homosexuality is conservative?
No, the point was that in your example of the guy talking about dating is that they are going to experience it in school and university. You make it seem like the only place they will come into contact with it is the scouts, which isn’t true.
You are side stepping the issue here. Are you claiming anything goes as long as no sexual contact occurs? Because that is not a Catholic position.
 
It’s called laxism and indifference. Sometimes Catholic lite.
Laxism? Really? Acknowledging the Church’s teaching on the intrinsic evil of acts and taking a position on the cause of homosexuality that is allowed for in Church documents is laxism? Asking that Church teaching be followed in respecting people with homosexual orientation, laxism?

Okay. That’s nice. Go read some of St. Alphonsus Ligouri, he has some interesting things to say about rigorism.
 
You use that word [perverted] a lot. I ask you once again, if your son or daughter was gay would you consider them “perverted”?
Yes, I would if he acted upon it and didn’t carry the cross.

Perverted - (of a person or their actions) Characterized by sexually abnormal and unacceptable practices or tendencies.
 
Laxism? Really? Acknowledging the Church’s teaching on the intrinsic evil of acts and taking a position on the cause of homosexuality that is allowed for in Church documents is laxism? Asking that Church teaching be followed in respecting people with homosexual orientation, laxism?

Okay. That’s nice. Go read some of St. Alphonsus Ligouri, he has some interesting things to say about rigorism.
Church teaching is not laxism or rigorism.
 
Yup. That’s it. The point of the policy change? Because before now the policy was (and still is until the new year…) this:

High school junior/Eagle Scout: I’m gay.
Scoutmaster: Bye-bye.

It will soon be:
High school junior/Eagle Scout: I’m gay.
Scoutmaster: Who cares? Go back and finish cleaning the dishes.
So what was the purpose of the junior/Eagle Scout saying “I’m gay”? He took it upon himself to be dismissed rather than to hold to the moral standards of the Boy Scouts of America. That was his choice.
 
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