Boy Scouts to allow gay youths to join

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rlg94086 said:
Right…so, what is the intent of someone who makes it a point to declare to others that he is “gay?” Why is that important, if they are leading a chaste life? It is reductionist by its very nature.

The only people I know who identify themselves to others as “straight” are those who accept the same reductionism prevelant in your posts, or they are doing it because they have to in conversation with “gay” reductionists.
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I condemn reductionism in all my posts. I simply acknowledge that the English language is capable of expressing sexual preferences in a concise way.
 
edwest2 said:
The American Psychological Association did in 1973 by vote. What was a disorder yesterday became not a disorder after the vote. Years of research? Out the window.

peace,
Ed
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A topic for another thread.
 
StJudeprayforme said:
I condemn reductionism in all my posts. I simply acknowledge that the English language is capable of expressing sexual preferences in a concise way.
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Sorry, but “gay” is not precise…at all. If you truly condemn reductionism, then you shouldn’t use the term.
 
rlg94086 said:
Sorry, but “gay” is not precise…at all. If you truly condemn reductionism, then you shouldn’t use the term.
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It is a colloquialism for “homosexual person” that has entered into standard usage. Check the CCC for a definition of “homosexual person”. I use gay in the same way the CCC uses “homosexual person.”
 
Here’s what happened in Canada:

“In 1998, Canadian Scouts (CS) decided to allow females, atheists, agnostics, homosexuals, bisexuals and transsexuals to join the CS. In 1999, they approved the establishment of an all-homosexual troop, which now marches in Canada’s “gay pride” parades. Within five years, scouting membership dropped over 50 percent. Many scouting camps and offices were closed, and staff was laid off.”

Peace,
Ed
 
edwest2 said:
You know this how?

Peace,
Ed
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I am a licensed therapist with a graduate degree in Social Work, a state license to practice as an independent therapist, and have years of experience working with the mentally ill; I diagnose individuals as part of my practice and I assure you that “homosexuality” is not a recognized mental disorder.

I have worked with hundreds of individuals struggling with any mental disorder you can name- well except Dissociative Identity Disorder- never met one of those.

Where did you gain your knowledge of the mental health field? What is your education? What is your experience working with the mentally ill? Have you or do you provide diagnoses as part of you work?
 
ringil said:
I am a licensed therapist with a graduate degree in Social Work, a state license to practice as an independent therapist, and have years of experience working with the mentally ill; I diagnose individuals as part of my practice and I assure you that “homosexuality” is not a recognized mental disorder.

I have worked with hundreds of individuals struggling with any mental disorder you can name- well except Dissociative Identity Disorder- never met one of those.

Where did you gain your knowledge of the mental health field? What is your education? What is your experience working with the mentally ill? Have you or do you provide diagnoses as part of you work?
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I learned that years of research regarding homosexual persons was ignored and a vote was made to remove it from the DSM.

amazon.com/Homosexuality-American-Psychiatry-Politics-Diagnosis/dp/0691028370

Peace,
Ed
 
EvangelCatholic said:
What century are you living in? The joy of sexual self-pleasure is a gift from God.
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:confused: the century defines the morality now … when did this happen? BC or AD? I have to know!

Though we are on a Catholic board … has everyone noticed that even in THIS century and NOT in a Church setting … that Paul Reubens’ lucrative career as Pee Wee Herman took a big hit from the secular law when he was arrested for … uh …

well it had to do with the second sentence (above). And while the public/private aspect of that case takes the thread further afield … let’s just assume that had Paul/Pee Wee been enjoying a gift of God like “praying” or “making a sign of the cross” instead - he would not have been arrested … at least not on the charges he was. :blushing:

And since it has such dire consequences in modern day America (for even famous people with a lot of money and established fame!) … perhaps organizations like the scouts ought not be so bold as to evangelize the wonders of it without warning boys of the negative potentially life changing consequences of it. If it needs to get mentioned at all.

If I may suggest an edit to that second sentence (above) … delete “self-”. Generally as pertains to God … self- ishness is not virtuous but something to the contrary.

That post (to my eyes was) quite a display of zeal though. :hmmm:

Note to self: Wasting evangelical zeal on such a sketchy “virtue?” :nope: (IMO) as “self-pleasure” – is a priority worth challenging at such times as it somehow appears at the top of “today’s to-do” list.

Some Activities May Be Damaging To Career and Reputation.
Citizens are Encouraged to Obey Such Laws that Apply

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Cities and Movie Theatres Are Not the Only
Entities That Have Moral Codes That Are Enforced.
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WHERE A Thing is Done Can Matter A Great Deal. :sad_yes:
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edwest2 said:
A statement about the decision from On My Honor:

onmyhonor.net/2013/05/24/decision-to-sexualize-scouting-forces-group-to-consider-forming-safe-alternative-program-for-boys/#more-3423

Peace,
Ed
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On My Honor is an anti-homosexual political organization setup by a politician to promote his particular type of anti-homosexual theology and agenda. I really question his moral founding and I suspect it is anti-person rather than anti-sin. Anyway, it isn’t a Catholic organization. They are backed by the FRC (also not a Catholic organization, more of an Evangelical Protestant organization.)

My advice is to follow the directions of your bishop or archbishop and don’t join a youth organization primarily setup to be “anti-homosexual” whatever that is.
 
gilliam said:
On My Honor is an anti-homosexual political organization setup by a politician to promote his particular type of anti-homosexual theology and agenda. I really question his moral founding and I suspect it is anti-person rather than anti-sin. Anyway, it isn’t a Catholic organization. They are backed by the FRC (also not a Catholic organization, more of an Evangelical Protestant organization.)

My advice is to follow the directions of your bishop or archbishop and don’t join a youth organization primarily setup to be “anti-homosexual” whatever that is.
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Thanks, I guess I’ll have to further investigate this.
 
gilliam said:
On My Honor is an anti-homosexual political organization setup by a politician to promote his particular type of anti-homosexual theology and agenda. I really question his moral founding and I suspect it is anti-person rather than anti-sin. Anyway, it isn’t a Catholic organization. They are backed by the FRC (also not a Catholic organization, more of an Evangelical Protestant organization.)

My advice is to follow the directions of your bishop or archbishop and don’t join a youth organization primarily setup to be “anti-homosexual” whatever that is.
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Good advice.
 
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