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gracepoole
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There are a lot of guesses about what might happen (to the BSA, to the community at large) as a result of this shift in policy. Though Bishop Guglielmone claims the secular media is more likely to think that this policy shift will “go much further than it actually does,” I’m guessing he hasn’t read this thread.
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gracepoole
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Fix, by emphasizing the following portion of the article I shared, are you claiming that slippery slope claims are justified?
"Perry acknowledged that this policy change will not satisfy the homosexual-rights lobby, pointing out that, ‘while some people wish the proposed resolution would go further, it was clear from our listening phase that changing adult standards would have conflicted with the majority of our partners, 70% of which are religious organizations, and would have disrupted our ability to deliver scouting.’
Indeed, homosexual-rights activists were quick to say this was only the beginning for them."
"Perry acknowledged that this policy change will not satisfy the homosexual-rights lobby, pointing out that, ‘while some people wish the proposed resolution would go further, it was clear from our listening phase that changing adult standards would have conflicted with the majority of our partners, 70% of which are religious organizations, and would have disrupted our ability to deliver scouting.’
Indeed, homosexual-rights activists were quick to say this was only the beginning for them."
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jediliz
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this is a very bad idea - what age will they be doing this at? My youngest nephew is planning to be a Cub scout (I think anyway…he’s said something a few times) when he starts 1st grade. How are they going to make sure the SSA boys don’t ACT on that?
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pnewton
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In my case, there are two Catholic packs, one from t church and one from the school. By sticking with a Catholic group it allows one to stand on Catholic principles in case this every becomes a local issue. Fortunately, we even have a regional Catholic scouting camp.
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armyross
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I think everyone needs to remember that these are kids. There is nothing wrong with them they need some help not people looking down on them. We are all under one God no matter what faith color you are.
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Thomas_Peter
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No…It really isn’t.Please look up the definition of the word “normal”.
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armyross
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what are we going back 1940 colors and white seperation they are people, I am sworn to defend everyone of the USA and I dont care who or what they are thats what I fight for for. The Freedom of my country.
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rlg94086
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What in the world are you talking about? Race has nothing to do with human sexuality.
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Thomas_Peter
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Please look up the definition of “normal”. It has a very clear meaning. This issue has nothing to do with race and the fact that you make it that tells me you are arguing from a purely emotional position.
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pnewton
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One of the best ways to look after children is to quit lying about human sexuality. In the name of tolerance we make it easier for children to fall into a life that leads to destruction. I suspect that this ruling will increase millstone production in heaven.
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edwest2
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Maybe not. But here’s a statement from the “Human Rights Campaign”:
“Today is a historic day for Boy Scouts across the country who want to be a part of this great American institution,” said HRC President Chad Griffin. “But the new policy doesn’t go far enough. Parents and adults of good moral character, regardless of sexual orientation, should be able to volunteer their time to mentor the next generation of Americans.”
“The Boy Scouts of America can do better,” said Zach Wahls, an Eagle Scout and Executive Director of Scouts for Equality. “We welcome the news that the ban on gay Scouts is history, but our work isn’t over until we honor the Scout Law by making this American institution open and affirming to all.”
What does HRC do? “Working for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Equal Rights.”
Peace,
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Brendan
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By all means, continue providing for the physical defense of all people. That’s what I did ( former Armor officer)
But if you also consider yourself to be Catholic, note that the Church itself recognizes that there are differences between homosexuality and race
vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19920724_homosexual-persons_en.html
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Sonic
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Sir, I accuse you of nothing. The gnomes… it was the gnomes. :takeoff:
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armyross
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I know the difference with race all I am saying is I get tired of people looking down on people that are diffarant. I do not have the right to judge the way anyone lives thats all I am saying. I really can care less if somone is gay or not. People can live the way they want to.
meltzerboy
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What is so terrible about what Zach Wahls is saying?
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armyross
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I don’t think there is anything wrong with what he is saying. But a bunch of closed minded people will have alot to say about it.
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Monkey1976
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We absolutely have the right to judge the actions of another person. What we must not judge is the state of their soul, or condemn them for things which are not objectively bad. Every person has control of their actions. This policy change is about nothing less than trying to tell these boys (n.b. - the language specifies “avowed” homosexuals) that their desire to act on their same-sex attraction is a good thing, when both history and the Church teach us otherwise.
Those with same-sex attractions have the same two choices that every one of us sinners has when any one of us is faced with the temptation to sin: Obey God or not. “Gay rights” activists act like the temptations faced by those with SSA are somehow different that what the rest of us face. If there is one thing Satan is not, it is creative. Temptation is temptation, and sin is sin. Would you support the Scouts allowing those who are “Avowed masturbators” or “Avowed thieves” to join?
God has made His teaching regarding homosexual acts very clear, despite what revisionist “scholars” would have you believe. “Avowed homosexuals” are those who have chosen not only to ignore what God has revealed - through both the Church and through history - but who have chosen to reduce their entire dignity and identity to what they like to do with their genitals.
I’m seriously considering returning my Eagle award over this betrayal of the Scout Oath and Law. They have failed in their duty to God, and they have failed to be Trustworthy, Loyal, Obedient, Clean, or Reverent.
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rlg94086
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How is it “closed minded” to follow the teaching of the Catholic Church?I don’t think there is anything wrong with what he is saying. But a bunch of closed minded people will have alot to say about it.
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armyross
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Wow never mind if you don’t get forget it about it. The church does not say you have the ruight to judge anyone. All I am saying is I think that its a good they are allowing these boys to join. I don’t need all your following this following that. If you think its right to judge then go ahead I don’t really care thats up to you. And just because I don’t belive 100% of everything does not mean I am a bad Catholic.
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