Boycott McDonalds

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surf(name removed by moderator)ure said:
Ford went out of their way to sponsor the “Gay Games” in Chicago and advertise on the gay TV channel and in gay publications.

Walt Disney holds “gay day” in their amusement parks.
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I know a lot of companies that Advertise on Desperate Housewives which promotes adultery which IMHO is much worse - we don’t ban them do we?

My point would be that I DO agree there are some Gay activitist who are taking things TOO far. However not all of them are, many of the people I know who suffer from SSA and refuse to change just want health care and to be able to see their partner if they get sick.

For them, like the Church’s stance on the Death Penalty, I would rather them be here as long as possible to give them a chance to repent.

Joe
 
estesbob said:
There is little they can do about it. Meanwhile we’re harming the independent businessman who has employed our kids and contributed much to the community. I guess the reason I see this differently is I have had McDonald’s franchises as clients. Where many see a faceless corporation I see friends and neighbors.
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As Catholics, we do not care about the independent businessman. We only care about the higer moral ground that includes getting rid of all homosexuality. With this in mind, all STARBUCKS and MCDONALDS should be closed down. After all if they cater to “those people”, they are forcing their presence on our children and that can’t be good-right?. Also, if you support homosexuality, you also automatically support abortion rights.

Boycott them all. And while we are at it, my neighborhood grocery store employs some gay people. Well, I think they are by the way they dress. The 2 women never wear dresses and one doesn’t wear make up. I will start on the RALPHS boycott today. If we can fix STARBUCKS and MC’Ds we can certainly do the same with the big offenders.

Can someone help me find a grocery that does not have a gay agenda? I need some milk and I can’t go to the 7-11. I refuse to spend my money where the owners are from a different country.
7-11 should be owned by AMERICANS.
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Getting rid of all homosexuality? Good luck with that.

You think these women are gay? I don’t ever wear makeup, nor dresses. Guess you need to inform my husband of my sexual deviancy, huh? I’m obviously living a lie.

Only the higher moral ground, huh? Not the individual? Says plenty right there.

Close them all down, b/c of a gay link? Best close most all businesses down then, and stay home. Oh, but I bet your landlord/mortgage holder is a sinner too. Best find a cave to live in. If you’re going to close down one business for sin, they all have to go.

Why is homosexuality the ‘grandfather of all sins’, the one everyone fights to rid us of, but not adultery, divorce, premarital sex…Only the ebil gays deserve to be boycotted and eradicated.
“Getting rid of homosexuality” indeed. Lots of love and charity in this post. Must be nice to be so snowy white and without blemish.
 
TC2 said:
Getting rid of all homosexuality? Good luck with that.

You think these women are gay? I don’t ever wear makeup, nor dresses. Guess you need to inform my husband of my sexual deviancy, huh? I’m obviously living a lie.

Only the higher moral ground, huh? Not the individual? Says plenty right there.

Close them all down, b/c of a gay link? Best close most all businesses down then, and stay home. Oh, but I bet your landlord/mortgage holder is a sinner too. Best find a cave to live in. If you’re going to close down one business for sin, they all have to go.

Why is homosexuality the ‘grandfather of all sins’, the one everyone fights to rid us of, but not adultery, divorce, premarital sex…Only the ebil gays deserve to be boycotted and eradicated.
“Getting rid of homosexuality” indeed. Lots of love and charity in this post. Must be nice to be so snowy white and without blemish.
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Um, I believe Bella was being sarcastic (note the sarcasm roll eyes smilie at the end).

In Christ,

Ellen
 
TC2 said:
Why is homosexuality the ‘grandfather of all sins’, the one everyone fights to rid us of, but not adultery, divorce, premarital sex…Only the ebil gays deserve to be boycotted and eradicated.
“Getting rid of homosexuality” indeed. Lots of love and charity in this post. Must be nice to be so snowy white and without blemish.
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It is not the grandfather of all sins. it is, however, a sin that people try to claim is not a sin at all.When was the last time you saw an adultery pride parade? How many corporations make contribution to oranizations promoting divorce?

If I start promoting pre-matital sex as a good thing and claim it is it is a valid expression of love you have my permission to start a thread about criticizing my views.
 
I don’t think anyone here is advocating a boycott of McDonald’s simply because they serve gay customers. That would be hateful, bigoted, and ridiculous. They should serve everyone who comes through their door, unless the person’s behavior in the store is offensive or violent or illegal.

The issue at hand is that McDonald’s has placed one of their executives on the board of the NGLCC, an organization that 1) demands special rights for gays (rights that are not extended to ordinary citizens) and 2) lobbies for gay “marriage.” McDonald’s has taken an interest in certain interests, and has taken sides in the culture battle. A restaurant business ought to be just a restaurant business and stay morally neutral. We are not asking that they support pro-life organizations or religious organizations. We simply want them not to give the money we spend with them to anti-family, anti-Christian, immoral endeavors. Is that really so much to ask?
 
demol said:
Can you back that claim up with data? The majority of pedophilia is committed by homosexual men? That is not true.

religioustolerance.org/hom_chil.htm

apahelpcenter.org/articles/article.php?id=31
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Are you following me from thread to thread in order to argue your pro-gay position? Sorry, I’m not biting this time. Good day, all.

(BTW, anyone who’s interested can read public sex-crime statistics and find out for themselves the link between homosexuality and pedophilia. It’s no big secret.)
 
demol said:
Can you back that claim up with data? The majority of pedophilia is committed by homosexual men? That is not true.

religioustolerance.org/hom_chil.htm

apahelpcenter.org/articles/article.php?id=31
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The first source says that homosexualtiy is not condemend in Scripture-that it was deliberately mistranslated to condemn homosexuality. I guess that means our Church is lying to us-either that or your source has no credibiltiy at all.

There is also some deft twisitng of numbers-any man who rapes a pre-pubescent boy , even if the prey exclusively on boys, is considered NOT to be a homosexual.
 
surf(name removed by moderator)ure said:
Are you following me from thread to thread in order to argue your pro-gay position? Sorry, I’m not biting this time. Good day, all.

(BTW, anyone who’s interested can read public sex-crime statistics and find out for themselves the link between homosexuality and pedophilia. It’s no big secret.)
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I am not pro-gay. Why, when I call you on a baseless claim that you made, you resort to leaving? Show some data to back the claim or retract it please.
 
estesbob said:
The first source says that homosexualtiy is not condemend in Scripture-that it was deliberately mistranslated to condemn homosexuality. I guess that means our Church is lying to us-either that or your source has no credibiltiy at all.

There is also some deft twisitng of numbers-any man who rapes a pre-pubescent boy , even if the prey exclusively on boys, is considered NOT to be a homosexual.
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So, are you saying you agree with the claim that the majority of pedophilia is committed by homosexual men?
 
demol said:
I am not pro-gay. Why, when I call you on a baseless claim that you made, you resort to leaving? Show some data to back the claim or retract it please.
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His claim wasnt baseless-homosexuals, who make up 1 to 3% of the populace, account for over a third of all child molestations… Of course if you change the definition of child molestation to categorically excude all homosexualss(claiming that once one molests a child they cantNOT be considered a homosexual) you can come up with any figuyres you want.
 
demol said:
So, are you saying you agree with the claim that the majority of pedophilia is committed by homosexual men?
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Not the majority because homosexuals make up less than 3% of the population. Howver they account for over a third of the molestations.
 
It is an established fact that the percentage of pedophiles who prey on children of the same gender is several orders of magnitude greater than the percentage of people who claim same-sex attraction.

For example, statistics gathered in the priest sex-abuse cases in the USA found that more than 80% of the underage victims were male.

Arguments to the contrary cannot be supported by empirical evidence without altering the empirical evidence. Which in this case, is frequently done.

Anyone arguing against this fact and using this altered data has is either foolish, lying or willfully blind. These three possibilities are not mutually exclusive.

But then, that has absolutely nothing to do with the justified boycott of McDonald’s. So let’s bring this back on topic.
 
estesbob said:
His claim wasnt baseless-homosexuals, who make up 1 to 3% of the populace, account for over a third of all child molestations… Of course if you change the definition of child molestation to categorically excude all homosexualss(claiming that once one molests a child they cantNOT be considered a homosexual) you can come up with any figuyres you want.
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There was no base to the claim. He/she offered no data, just his/her opinion. I am not pro-gay but I do not like to see wild accusations made. It most certainly does no help for Catholics.

And regarding your other post, you state they make up 1/3. Fine. That is not a majority anyways, you discredited his/her statement.

Sorry to go off topic. But the other question I have is why only McDonalds? Looking at the NGLCC web site there are many other Corporate Partners. Will there be other boycotts. I am serious and not trying to be rude, but it seems hypocritical to target one and not another (that maybe people use on a regular basis).
 
demol said:
There was no base to the claim. He/she offered no data, just his/her opinion. I am not pro-gay but I do not like to see wild accusations made. It most certainly does no help for Catholics.

And regarding your other post, you state they make up 1/3. Fine. That is not a majority anyways, you discredited his/her statement.

Sorry to go off topic. But the other question I have is why only McDonalds? Looking at the NGLCC web site there are many other Corporate Partners. Will there be other boycotts. I am serious and not trying to be rude, but it seems hypocritical to target one and not another (that maybe people use on a regular basis).
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As I said before I do not support the boycott. Dont you think that 1% to 3% of the population accounting for over a third of molestations tells us something about homosexuality?
 
estesbob said:
As I said before I do not support the boycott. Dont you think that 1% to 3% of the population accounting for over a third of molestations tells us something about homosexuality?
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My point was simply that claimimg a majority was wrong. Do I believe your statistics tell us something? If they are accurate, yes. Nobody has provided any research/studies to back your claim though.
Again, not here to fan the fire, just trying to learn. I’m a stats person, unfortunately. If I’ve offended, I apologize.
 
demol said:
My point was simply that claimimg a majority was wrong. Do I believe your statistics tell us something? If they are accurate, yes. Nobody has provided any research/studies to back your claim though.
Again, not here to fan the fire, just trying to learn. I’m a stats person, unfortunately. If I’ve offended, I apologize.
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Off Topic. If you want to debate this, cease hijacking this thread and start one of your own.
 
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