BREAKING NEWS: Pope to resign

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Corruich said:
What do we even call him now? Surely not Pope and perhaps not even Benedict? Is he still Benedict if he resigned? Does he go back to his bishop title/name?
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That’s the funny thing. Nobody knows. Even the Vatican spokesperson said they don’t know what his title would be.

Pope Emeritus? Former Bishop of Rome? There really aren’t any titles that sound nice to the ears.
 
Here’s some more details on the Pope’s announcement and Jimmy Akin’s initial reaction/comments:

jimmyakin.com/2013/02/first-thoughts-on-pope-benedicts-resignation.html

The duties of the Pope have never been more demanding I think (at least in recent times), and it’s only a recent trend in modern medicine that allows for a man in any position to proceed through his work at 85 years of age. Anyway…I look forward to greeting whomever the Holy Spirit will move the Cardinals to elect as our next Pope. 🙂
 
PazzoGrande said:
That’s the funny thing. Nobody knows. Even the Vatican spokesperson said they don’t know what his title would be.

Pope Emeritus? Former Bishop of Rome? There really aren’t any titles that sound nice to the ears.
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The thing is though don’t past popes usually retain the title of “pope”? I mean we still refer to Blessed Pope John Paul II not Blessed Karol Wojtyla 🤷 Even popes who resigned in the past such as Celestine V are still known by their papal names and referred to as “Pope Celestine”.

Would he not still be known posthumously, to future generations that is, as Pope Benedict XVI even though he lived out the rest of his life as not the Bishop of Rome?
 
So, might Christ return on Easter Sunday ? …to reclaim his Eternal Chair ?
 
Can’t right ? …we haven’t been thru the Great Apostasy yet ? …or have we ?
 
Vouthon said:
The thing is though don’t past popes usually retain the title of “pope”? I mean we still refer to Blessed Pope John Paul II not Blessed Karol Wotyla 🤷

Would he not still be known posthumously, to future generations as Pope Benedict XVI even though he lived out the rest of his life as not the Bishop of Rome?
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Hmm, fair point.

Personally I was thinking about it more in terms of him being a monarch. Monarchs who step down are no longer King or Queen, but they take the title of Prince of Princess (watch out for it when Queen Beatrix steps down later this year).

Funny, Queen Beatrix is a figurehead, yet her resignation was announced months ahead.

The Pope has real power and real responsibilities; his resignation was announced a bit over two weeks ahead.
 
Is it possible Benedict received a vision …that Christ is waiting, soon to appear in the heavens …perhaps Easter Sunday ?

Is there anything in John’s Revelation that would rule out 2nd coming at this time … in the Papal lineage?
 
Vouthon said:
I have read that his closest aides and the cardinals present were unaware that he was about to resign.
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Yeah Lombardi didn’t even know! I’m guessing Ganswein and Bertone knew, and probably the other Papal Secretary and whoever is the Undersecretary of State now, but you’d think that at least the Press Office Director would have been told beforehand so they’d know how to field the questions. I mean, Lombardi acknowledged, there isn’t even a title ready for him.

Underlines how severe the Holy Father’s problems must be.

I’m reading Sodano’s statement and it seems as if he didn’t know either, because he was speaking off the cuff and didn’t have a ready response to the Papal resignation.
 
PazzoGrande said:
Yeah Lombardi didn’t even know! I’m guessing Ganswein and Bertone knew, and probably the other Papal Secretary and whoever is the Undersecretary of State now, but you’d think that at least the Press Office Director would have been told beforehand so they’d know how to field the questions. I mean, Lombardi acknowledged, there isn’t even a title ready for him.

Underlines how severe the Holy Father’s problems must be.

I’m reading Sodano’s statement and it seems as if he didn’t know either, because he was speaking off the cuff and didn’t have a ready response to the Papal resignation.
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Was that Cardinal Sodano speaking after his resignation? If so are there any English transcripts of his remarks? I caught a little of what he said, but I don’t speak Italian so…
 
patrick457 said:
Well, being a pope is very demanding, I guess. I hope to God we get a worthy successor to him.
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Being a pope is indeed demanding (the reason that Pope Celestine V resigned, if I recall), and I respect him for his decision. Hopefully we will receive a worthy successor, by the likes of both Benedict and John Paul II.
 
PazzoGrande said:
Thanks for that.

Yes, he just turned 79 according to Wikipedia.

So how does this go? Who asks the new Pope if he accepts election? Re or Sodano?

I’m presuming Sodano will preside over the Mass of the Holy Spirit. But in the Sistine, before the Extra Omnes, will it still be Sodano or will it be Re?

Canon Law seems vague on that topic if the Dean is too old to sit in Conclave.
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Sorry, I have no idea.
 
Pope Benedict plans to retire to a former cloistered monastery within the Vatican, the director of the Vatican press office has disclosed. Father Federico Lombardi told reporters that …

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