Breaking: Pope to Host Conference Explaining Why Marriage is Man-Woman

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One_point said:
Except marriage is a natural institution, a social institution recognizing and protecting a natural union. Lawyers and politicians have no right messing around with it than they do messing around with our very reality.
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Whilst I agree with you, that lawyers and politicians should not interfere with the institution of marriage, they do and they have.

I believe the only thing we can campaign for, is a greatest union of one man one woman for life and before God.

Very sadly a volunteer from the Red Cross has recently been sacked from his job, because he was speaking out against gay marriage. Had he campaigned more for what is greatest, things may have been different
 
The State has no authority to alter what a marriage is. They DO have a duty to protect true marriage. “Render unto Caesar” is a gross misapplication of Scripture. The Church has already laid out the responsibilities of the State regarding marriage here. In short, neither Catholics nor the State get to punt on marriage.
 
hobbes42 said:
the church really has no need whatsoever for the government to be involved in marriage.

Government must needs stay out of the affairs of the church. In fact, it might be said that the best solution to gay “marriage” being pushed is to abolish state recognition of marriage.

Render unto caesar what is caesar’s, and unto god what is god’s. Marriage clearly is of god, so why are we involving caesar?
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Exactly!!
 
JimG said:
A conference to explain why marriage is between a man and a woman? That’s a good thing.

At the same time it seems a sad commentary on the irrationality of the age in which we live, that that there is a perceived need to have to explain why there are men and women, and why they are sexually complementary.

A few decades ago, the announcement of such a conference title would have elicited comments of “well, duh!”
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In a sense it could be seen as quite remarkable to get so many other religious communities together potentially agreeing on such a critical issue.

Russell Moore {Evangelical Baptist} statement,
“I am willing to go anywhere, when asked, to bear witness to what we as evangelical Protestants believe about marriage and the gospel, especially in times in which marriage is culturally imperiled.”
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Henry Eyring {A Mormon Church leader} statement,
“At this time of rapidly declining moral values and the challenges to traditional family structures and relationships throughout the world, we are pleased to unite with the Catholic Church, other fellow Christian denominations and other world religions in standing firm and speaking clearly about the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman.”
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Representatives will be present from Evangelical, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, Buddhist and Hindu communties.
 
CarmelJerome said:
Francis is also responding quickly to make sure that the nonsense published after the relatio at the synod doesn’t stay in the air as some sort of possibility, and doing it wisely by showing that the Church can’t change what God Himself engraved in human nature.
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I certainly agree that Francis is orthodox on this subject - marriage between a man and a woman. To me, a clear reference to affirmation of traditional marriage was even in the final document that came out of the Synod. His own statements have affirmed this since he became Pope. I see the full implications of this downplayed in some Catholic circles, but I don’t think anyone denies it.

But I personally would be cautious to then just assume that he is squarely in the so-called “orthodox” camp, for example on the Kasper proposal, or for that matter any/all other proposed “pastoral” or “linguistic” changes or “modernizations” under discussion leading up to the 2015 Synod. My sense is that a lot is being discussed; we saw that from the mid-term report; those same issues are still in play for the next year. It’s clear Pope Francis has allowed Kasper a lot of leeway which he still very actively exercises. I am watching to see how all of that plays out in the next year.
 
FollowChrist34 said:
I certainly agree that Francis is orthodox on this subject - marriage between a man and a woman. To me, a clear reference to affirmation of traditional marriage was even in the final document that came out of the Synod. His own statements have affirmed this since he became Pope. I see the full implications of this downplayed in some Catholic circles, but I don’t think anyone denies it.

But I personally would be cautious to then just assume that he is squarely in the so-called “orthodox” camp, for example on the Kasper proposal, or for that matter any/all other proposed “pastoral” or “linguistic” changes or “modernizations” under discussion leading up to the 2015 Synod. My sense is that a lot is being discussed; we saw that from the mid-term report; those same issues are still in play for the next year. It’s clear Pope Francis has allowed Kasper a lot of leeway which he still very actively exercises. I am watching to see how all of that plays out in the next year.
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PTL said:
My guess is the Communion issue will NOT be addressed since it is an inter-religion conference. However, the sin issue of homosexuality SHOULD be addressed. God created man and woman to be husband and wife that is called marriage. Actually, there is no such a thing called “traditional” marriage. There is only marriage between a man and a woman. Other than the union of a man and a woman, there is nothing even get close to a “marriage”. I hope to see marriage is clearly discussed and defined. That hopefully will be helpful.
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Homosexuality per se cannot be a sin according to Catholic teaching, as the word refer to inclinations not actions. Gay sex (the sinful part) is also irrelevant to a conference on marriage.
 
estesbob said:
It is a global, interreligious meeting featuring representatives from 14 religious traditions and 23 countries.
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The article doesn’t say what the other 14 religious traditions are, but I found another article saying that the Latter-day Saints (Mormons) will be among them:
SALT LAKE CITY — An LDS Church leader will join Pope Francis and other faith leaders this month at an interreligious Vatican conference that seeks to “support and reinvigorate” marriage between a man and a woman.
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President Henry B. Eyring, First Counselor in the First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, will be one of more than 30 speakers at “The Complementarity of Man and Woman: An International Colloquium.”
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deseretnews.com/article/865614617/LDS-leader-to-join-Vatican-conference-on-complementary-union-of-man-and-woman.html?pg=all
 
Just saw this - great article, very encouraging comments on this upcoming CDF conference. I particularly like the fact that this conference is clearly connected to the events of the Synod. It sounds like the conference is intended to be interpreted as a clarification by the Vatican.
The CWR Blog
A Vatican Mulligan?
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The upcoming “Humanum” conference in Rome, sponsored by the CDF, will seek to offer clarification on issues debated at the recent Synod

In golf, a “do-over” is a called a “mulligan”. At the Vatican, might it be called a “post-synodal conference”?
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October’s Synod on the Family proved disappointing to many. Fraught with controversy and confusion, some believe church leadership missed an opportunity to propose clear and effective doctrine. Reportedly, bishops raised their voices. One pounded his fist on his desk in disgust.
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But a year out from next fall’s summit, some Vatican leaders are already trying to retake important ground, seeking to offer clarification on hotly debated issues. On Monday, November 3, Catholic News Service (CNS) reported that “Pope Francis will open an interreligious conference dedicated to traditional marriage.” The conference will be held November 17-19 at the Vatican’s Pope Paul VI Hall, just one “month after … a Synod of Bishops on the family stirred by controversy over divorce, same-sex unions and other nonmarital relationships” was held in that same location.
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Unlike the Synod before it, the “Humanum” conference—“An International Interreligious Colloquium on The Complementarity of Man and Woman”—will be live streamed across the Internet. Already, three promotional online videos are available for viewing.
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The Pope will preside over the conference’s first morning session and he will deliver a twenty-five minute address in which he is expected to “revisit the controversies raised by [October’s Synod] from the perspective of how men and women relate to one another,” according to Crux’s Inés San Martín. Those calling for an end to the Pope’s silence during the Synod are sure to welcome confirmation of his conference participation.
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catholicworldreport.com/Blog/3499/a_vatican_mulligan.aspx
 
FollowChrist34 said:
Just saw this - great article, very encouraging comments on this upcoming CDF conference. I particularly like the fact that this conference is clearly connected to the events of the Synod. It sounds like the conference is intended to be interpreted as a clarification by the Vatican.

catholicworldreport.com/Blog/3499/a_vatican_mulligan.aspx
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Yeah this is a good article, its encouraging and gives a good outline of the events of the conference.
 
Hopefully this conference will put an end to the perception among some homosexual groups and there supporters that Pope Francis may be “Pro-Gay”.
 
Seamus_L said:
Hopefully this conference will put an end to the perception among some homosexual groups and there supporters that Pope Francis may be “Pro-Gay”.
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Doubt it. The media wont report on it, and those that do hear about it will ignore it because the narrative that Francis is pro-gay marriage is useful to them.
 
Seamus_L said:
Hopefully this conference will put an end to the perception among some homosexual groups and there supporters that Pope Francis may be “Pro-Gay”.
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To most people Pope Francis certainly seems more welcoming of LGBT people and he has certainly made more effort in outreach towards them than previous popes.
 
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