BREAKING: Texas Republicans pass abortion law after marathon filibuster

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LisaA said:
Totally disingenuous. And you presume facts not in evidence. WERE there any protestors on the pro life side disrupting the proceedings?
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Oh come on, of course there weren’t pro lifers disrupting the proceedings, why would we since we support what they were trying to do. I don’t even know why you asked this. Talk about disingenuous.
 
TheRealJuliane said:
That’s not the way it’s supposed to work.
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As long as voting is voluntary that is how it works though. No one is forced to vote ( not saying they should be). This is why hot button subjects on local ballots can effect state voting outcomes and the same with state initiatives that get voters out affect national elections. Whatever gets someone there they tend to go ahead and vote on everything.
 
CompSciGuy said:
Well since many people don’t seem put off by the way the protestors disrupted the democratic process by shouting down the senate, perhaps they also won’t be upset if pro-lifers shout down Ms. Davis at the next fiilibuster. The rule is that she can’t stop speaking for more than a few seconds… If yelling in screaming is enough to delay the vote then it is enough to delay Ms. Davis from being heard for long enough to break her fillibuster.
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I won’t be put off if pro lifers go and shout her down. In fact since I’m in Texas maybe I’ll go myself.

ETA, thanks for the inspiration I’m checking Texas rite to life’s website to see about protest organization they might have going for next week.
 
I guess this proves that you can win any debate if you shout loud enough to drown out everyone else. In situations like this, the session should be automatically rescheduled, shouldn’t even require the governor to take the initiative, since the session was interrupted illegally by the ‘protestors.’ To let the law die because of this would be an insult to the whole system. An angry crowd shouldn’t be allowed to successfully subvert the legislative action of elected officials.
 
Personanongrata said:
I am against any laws that adversely affect ONLY poor women. When the law applies to everyone, then that’s a different discussion.
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So in other words you think poor women should be allowed to do anything, including murder, just because they’re “poor women?” I suppose if there were a law specifically allowing only ‘poor women’ to rob banks, you would oppose overturning it because it would ‘only affect’ said poor women. I’m curious, what is it about poor women that makes them deserving of such special rights?
 
Raskolnikov said:
I guess this proves that you can win any debate if you shout loud enough to drown out everyone else. In situations like this, the session should be automatically rescheduled, shouldn’t even require the governor to take the initiative, since the session was interrupted illegally by the ‘protestors.’ To let the law die because of this would be an insult to the whole system. An angry crowd shouldn’t be allowed to successfully subvert the legislative action of elected officials.
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No, that is what our Constitution and laws are for. I’m surprised that the behavior wasn’t stopped as soon as it began, and the gallery closed. Perhaps there just weren’t enough officers to handle the 1,000 screaming freaks. I wonder if they’d have gotten tazed should they have attempted to occupy the Senate chamber floor? I would hope so. “Don’t taze me bro!” 🙂
 
Has this bill finally passed in the 3rd? session or are we still waiting? The newspaper was confusing.
 
Dumb woman. Special session and now democracy can proceed next week. If the abortion advocates have the votes, let them block it. If not, then let them accept that their right to murder will be curtailed by law, if not eliminated. Hell’s hot awaits those who seek the death of the innocents, those who follow the path of Herod before them.
 
CompSciGuy said:
It would be absolutely inappropriate in any case! It is the job of the democratically elected members of the state senate to represent their constituents. By being rowdy and shouting over the senators, these few were effectively silencing the voices of Texas citizens. In other words, this was an act of tyranny on the part of the protestors.
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CompSciGuy said:
People get involved by voting, and the majority of Texans voted for the senators that were pushing that bill last night. If you haven’t noticed Texas is a freaking huge state, and it is unrealistic for everyone everywhere to drive all the way to Austin on a work day to protest in the lobby of the state capitol. I live in Austin and even this wasn’t realistic for me either. But believe me I, along with millions of others across this great state, were busy making phone calls and calling for a second session. This is how to really make a difference, not screaming your head off like a child and silencing the voices of elected officials. That is called tyranny.
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Exactly.
LisaA said:
It continues to be a war of words between Davis and Governor Perry. He commented that as the child of a single teenage mother who ended up going to Harvard and being very successful, that he didn’t understand why she wasn’t working for other babies conceived in less than optimal circumstances to have the same chance SHE had…because HER mother chose life.

How anyone who was given this gift of life can have such a disregard for the rights of others stuns me. I look to POTUS who was certainly conceived in a very unstable situation. Yet he was given the chance and here he is the Leader of the Free World. Yet HE and Davis and others of their ilk are so incredibly self absorbed, they have no compassion for other babies conceived in such tenuous situations. I truly do not get it.

Lisa
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It’s completely bizarre.
 
Personanongrata said:
I am against any laws that adversely affect ONLY poor women. When the law applies to everyone, then that’s a different discussion.
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You keep repeating a falsehood as if repeating it will make it true. So only poor women have abortions after 20 weeks? Someone stops women at the door of Abortions R Us and asks for a copy of your bank account? That makes no sense. Either make a case or stop spreading false information.

The reality is that few providers will DO a 2nd or 3rd trimester abortion. There are a limited number of providers and the cost is extremely high. Believe me Carhart and his evil twin Gosnell charged THOUSANDS for these procedures. they were not running a charity or helping poor women at all.

What poor women need is information on options which should include referral to adoption agencies and to charities that help in crisis pregnancies, and to community HEALTH clinics that do something other than provide these grotesque procedures.
 
Rising Texas political star Davis takes second look at governor’s race
By Michael O’Brien, Political Reporter, NBC News
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It’s been a sharp, quick ascent into national prominence for Wendy Davis, the Democratic state senator whose 13-hour filibuster against a restrictive Texas abortion law made her an instant heroine to progressives across the country – and a rising star in Texas politics.
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Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Wendy Davis, the Texas state legislator whose 11-hour filibuster prevented a vote on a controversial abortion law, are engaged in a war of words as Perry calls another special session to hold a vote on the measure. NBC’s Janet Shamlian reports.
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Her activism has reignited the conversation about her political future which could include a run for governor. “Of course it forces a second look, but I am not taking that look right now,” Davis said in an interview with NBC News. “Right now, I’m working to try to be very strategic, and a member of the team that has to work very hard in the next few weeks to defeat this bill.”
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But asked directly whether she would rule out serving as Democrats’ candidate for governor in 2014, Davis responded: “I cannot rule that out.”
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How would such a pro abortion democrat win to be governor?
 
_Abyssinia said:
Rising Texas political star Davis takes second look at governor’s race

How would such a pro abortion democrat win to be governor?
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She won’t. But like a lot of people who live in the bubble of partisan politics, she is probably starting to believe her own baloney. I heard a discussion on POTUS (political channel) and her Twitter followers went from 5000 to 100000 over this. I see her just upping her national stage presence because what she promotes will not do well outside of Austin. I hope that whatever district she represents that there will be some sanity and they will run someone to get rid of her.

Lisa
 
LisaA said:
She won’t. But like a lot of people who live in the bubble of partisan politics, she is probably starting to believe her own baloney. I heard a discussion on POTUS (political channel) and her Twitter followers went from 5000 to 100000 over this. I see her just upping her national stage presence because what she promotes will not do well outside of Austin. I hope that whatever district she represents that there will be some sanity and they will run someone to get rid of her.

Lisa
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Kyle Kondik ‏@kkondik
TX state Sen. Wendy Davis (D) in news (obviously). She is up for reelection next year in tough district 1/2
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Kyle Kondik ‏@kkondik
According to TX data, Wendy Davis’s Senate district went 53.3%-45.4% for Romney in 2012. 2/2
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Wendy Davis held on for a 51.1% to 48.9% victory in '12; b/c of a quirk she has to run again in '14
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So Davis’s '14 state Sen reelection contest seems likely to be the most watched state legislative contest in the country
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LisaA said:
She won’t. But like a lot of people who live in the bubble of partisan politics, she is probably starting to believe her own baloney. I heard a discussion on POTUS (political channel) and her Twitter followers went from 5000 to 100000 over this. I see her just upping her national stage presence because what she promotes will not do well outside of Austin. I hope that whatever district she represents that there will be some sanity and they will run someone to get rid of her.

Lisa
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Just ask Sandra Fluke or Cindy Sheehan how that works out. Once the democrats have used and abused your for your “victimhood” they are done.
 
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