Breaking: Wisconsin Supreme Court reinstates Walker’s collective bargaining law

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bbarrick8383 said:
Like I said, if there are any questions. Just because the teacher got fired over the accusation, doesn’t mean the school board felt they were guilty. They may come to the that decision based on other factors as well.

The school board is their due process. They can present their argument to those elected members who are there to serve the schools best interests. Most likely they will listen to the accuser as well and make a decision based on what’s presented to them.
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Dream on if you think that a teacher accused of sexual misconduct is going to get an unprejudiced hearing.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
:confused:.

The connection between giving a teacher due process and the tenure system???
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The tenure system and the processes the school districts have to go through are very related. There are a lot of hoops to jump through before courts get involved. That’s why only 1 in 2500 teachers lose their ability to teach versus 1 in 97 attorneys losing their ability to practice law. It’s easier to get an attorney disbarred than it is to fire a teacher. You may be okay with that…I’m not.

I believe in due process, not undue process. I believe in unions, but not unions with so much power that they destroy our schools.
 
SamH said:
Because the union will just as vigerously defend a tenured incompetent teacher. I’ve seen it and I’ve dealt with it. I will also probably deal with it again next fall.
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It’s called due process. Every teacher is entitled to it. The good and the bad. As an attorney, I’ve defended innocent and guilty alike. It’s, well, the American thing to do.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
It’s called due process. Every teacher is entitled to it. The good and the bad. As an attorney, I’ve defended innocent and guilty alike. It’s, well, the American thing to do.
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So, should businesses have to get attorneys involved to fire a poor performing worker? Is that due process?
 
rlg94086 said:
So, should businesses have to get attorneys involved to fire a poor performing worker? Is that due process?
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Due process is a legal term for criminal proceedings, not personnel reviews. But I can see where he’s headed with this (to the bank).
 
rlg94086 said:
So, should businesses have to get attorneys involved to fire a poor performing worker? Is that due process?
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When my father worked for the railroad, a wholly unionized industry, the company would have to defend their decision to fire a man before the union. The union didn’t defend any man to the death, and would usually go along with the railroad once evidence was given, but due process was honored.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Yes, I am. Fair enough to hold what you do.
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Wow. You believe that getting an attorney disbarred should be easier than firing an incompetent teacher? I’ve never heard a liberal admit to such a thing. Thank you for your honesty.
 
rlg94086 said:
Wow. You believe that getting an attorney disbarred should be easier than firing an incompetent teacher? I’ve never heard a liberal admit to such a thing. Thank you for your honesty.
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Its easier to remove a duly elected governor than a tenured teacher in most states.
 
SamH said:
Due process is a legal term for criminal proceedings, not personnel reviews. But I can see where he’s headed with this (to the bank).
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No, it’s broader than that. Due process is the legal principle that the government must respect all of the legal rights that are owed to a person according to the law. Due process in matters such as education are procedural safeguards for the parties accused…
 
rlg94086 said:
Wow. You believe that getting an attorney disbarred should be easier than firing an incompetent teacher? I’ve never heard a liberal admit to such a thing. Thank you for your honesty.
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That’s not what I said.
 
Well, gents, it’s been fun, but I’m off to work now. I don’t have union protection, so my employer actually expects me to do my job…
 
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