British Anglicans Preparing Mass Defection to Roman Catholic Church

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British Anglicans Preparing Mass Defection to Roman Catholic Church
LONDON – Hundreds of disillusioned Anglicans were preparing Sunday to defect from the Church of England to the Roman Catholic Church%between% in time for Lent, Sky News reported.

It follows a campaign by a former Anglican bishop in protest at its stance on the ordination of women and gay clergy.

Father Keith Newton has encouraged Anglicans to join the Ordinariate – a special branch of Catholicism established by the Pope – to welcome protestant defectors.
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Read more: foxnews.com/world/2011/01/30/british-anglicans-preparing-mass-defection-roman-catholic-church/#ixzz1CjPVG23K
 
I am happy that the Pope and the Catholic Church provided an alternative for these folks. I do hope that the clergy as well as the parishioners take some time to think through what they are doing. Right now it appears that the people are walking away from something; it would be so much better if they were walking toward something. Who knows; maybe they are walking toward the Church and it is not portrayed that way?
 
Mass defections as opposed to isolated defections, I’ll buy. But I don’t think we’ll see a mass defection in the sense of a really significant chunk of Anglicans coming over. I’ll be surprised and impressed if more than about 5% choose this route.
 
Making a massive and disruptive change DOES tend to make people at least THINK a bit about who they are and what they believe. That sure beats the spiritual indifference and apathy that marks most of today’s culture. I vote GOOD thing.
 
Exactly what does this mean? The signs in front of their churches will be renamed to Catholic instead of Anglican? That Catholics may attend Anglican services? Is this some bishop hype? How much of this is political? Seems as if Anglicans always had the opportunity to convert to Catholicism and vice versa.
 
Good!!! They shouldn’t have to put up with the ridiculous liberalization of every bloody thing in the Western World. After centuries of Anti-Catholicism within England, what swords, guns, military coups and maneuvers failed to do… liberalization does seemingly over night.

Now we finally have people who have witnessed first had the sappy “Let’s bring dogs and cats into pray to Jesus and receive the Eucharist as our female priest strums on a guitar” nonsense. They will attest to it’s foolishness and worship can be done properly and not in some scary, fake smiles and hand gestures.

God be with us all.
 
Where you been Pro? B16 approved a ‘personal ordinariate’ in which countries will have a parallel organization for Anglican converts which will be under the jurisdiction of its own ordinary (maybe an Anglican convert ordained to a bishop, maybe not), will have its own version of the liturgy (retaining all of what is good in the Anglican liturgy, which is a lot), its own priests.

Essentially it will work similar to the way the US military has a single bishop for catholic priest/chaplains for all global US military catholic ministries.
 
ProVobis said:
Exactly what does this mean? The signs in front of their churches will be renamed to Catholic instead of Anglican?
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I don’t think so. My understanding is that the church buildings will stay Anglican, only the parishioners are converting.

A recent BBC article sheds a little light:
Where the new congregations will worship has yet to be decided.
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“It will be on a case-by-case basis,” said Father Keith Newton, the former Anglican bishop who now heads the Ordinariate.
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“I hope in some cases the Church of England will be generous and there will be some sharing of Anglican premises. But I think normally our groups will be worshipping in Catholic churches,” he added.
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ProVobis said:
Seems as if Anglicans always had the opportunity to convert to Catholicism and vice versa.
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Yes, I think so. What is new is that Anglican religious customs will be preserved in the new ordinariate. So perhaps it is a form of inculturation?
 
If you build it (the bridge to Rome), they will come.
 
Digitonomy said:
Mass defections as opposed to isolated defections, I’ll buy. But I don’t think we’ll see a mass defection in the sense of a really significant chunk of Anglicans coming over. I’ll be surprised and impressed if more than about 5% choose this route.
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The percentage of Anglicans seated in the pews every Sunday is abysmally low (not that Catholics have much to boast about.) If 5% of all Anglicans convert that’s probably a huge chunk of active Anglicans. There’s not much chance of someone converting to the Catholic Church if they can’t even be bothered to show up on Sunday for the Anglican liturgy.
 
Dale_M said:
I don’t think so. My understanding is that the church buildings will stay Anglican, only the parishioners are converting.
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The Anglican church buildings and other assets seized from the Catholic Church should be returned (plus interest) to the Catholic Church. The Anglicans can keep the buildings erected after Henry XVIII split from the Church.
 
1holycatholic said:
The Anglican church buildings and other assets seized from the Catholic Church should be returned (plus interest) to the Catholic Church. The Anglicans can keep the buildings erected after Henry XVIII split from the Church.
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I think you’ll find a very lukewarm response to getting back the old buildings, given that they are unsuitable for modern worship and cost a small fortune to keep in repair and heat.

You’ll also find it was Henry VIII - we haven’t had a Henry XVIII just yet.
 
paperwight66 said:
I think you’ll find a very lukewarm response to getting back the old buildings, given that they are unsuitable for modern worship and cost a small fortune to keep in repair and heat.

You’ll also find it was Henry VIII - we haven’t had a Henry XVIII just yet.
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Where did that X come from? :doh2:
 
The continued defense of the inexcusable abuses of the state with regards to religious matters especially the anti-Catholicism that remains codified into law appears to be little more than a form of corporate Stockholm syndrome.
 
manualman said:
Essentially it will work similar to the way the US military has a single bishop for catholic priest/chaplains for all global US military catholic ministries.
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Anything similar to the Polish National Church?
 
I lived in the UK for almost nine years. Before VII. Was part of a small Polish community within the Catholic Church. It wasn’t very pleasant. My dad, a military man whose unit ended up under British command, moved us out of there as quickly as it was possible.

St. Thomas More would be rolling in his grave reading some of the praise given the Anglicans.
 
If the anti-Catholic laws weren’t on the books your argument would have merit.

There were anti-Catholic laws in the United States which isn’t terribly surprising considering the historical role of the British in the colonies. AFAIK there are no explicitly anti-Catholic laws that currently exist.
 
I lived in the UK for almost nine years. Before VII. Was part of a small Polish community within the Catholic Church. It wasn’t very pleasant. My dad, a military man whose unit ended up under British command, moved us out of there as quickly as it was possible. If anything the situation is probably worse today.

St. Thomas More would be rolling in his grave reading some of the praise given the Anglicans.
 
That’s true, but anti-Catholicism isn’t codified into law here and it is there.
 
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