British grandparents lose custody of children to homosexual couple

[Publisher]

Bennie P…“You tend to like the word demonizing as to throw it back at those that oppose your view.”

No not at all, I use the word “demonizing” to indicate that the only way to distance ourselves from others is to make them somehow “less than ourselves” or “other”…if they are seen “less than” or “totally other”…it is much easier to deny them rights the law allows…the word “deomonize” lends itself to that sentiment…IMO.

 

[AveSantaMaria]

Bennie P…“You tend to like the word demonizing as to throw it back at those that oppose your view.”

No not at all, I use the word “demonizing” to indicate that the only way to distance ourselves from others is to make them somehow “less than ourselves” or “other”…if they are seen “less than” or “totally other”…it is much easier to deny them rights the law allows…the word “deomonize” lends itself to that sentiment…IMO.

No, the world demonize comes from a reference to demons, such as Lucifer, who gave Eve an apple to eat so she ate it, gave it to Adam, and sin came in to the world.

Demonize is more appropriate applied to perversions, disease, suffering, and evil brought into the world due to the sin of Adam and Eve instigated by Lucifer. It is associated with Hell, the final resting place of those who follow Satan and are not protected by invincible ignorance.

 

[Publisher]

No, the world demonize comes from a reference to demons, such as Lucifer, who gave Eve an apple to eat so she ate it, gave it to Adam, and sin came in to the world.

Demonize is more appropriate applied to perversions, disease, suffering, and evil brought into the world due to the sin of Adam and Eve instigated by Lucifer. It is associated with Hell, the final resting place of those who follow Satan and are not protected by invincible ignorance.

I wasn’t addressing the root epistimology of the word, nor was I overly concerned with it…but with the sentitment of how I used it…

“Daemon” means spirt…in Christian vernacular…it does mean evil…and “demonize” in this thread in relation to the gay couple…made sense to me…but thanks for your take on it…

 

[AveSantaMaria]

I wasn’t addressing the root epistimology of the word…but the sentitment of how I used it…“daemon” means spirt…in Christian vernacular…it does mean evil…and “demonize” in this thread in relation to the gay couple…made sense to me…but thanks for your take on it…

I haven’t been involved in the thread but I looked up the word demonize.

American Heritage Dictionary
1. to turn into or as if into a demon. 2. To possess by or as if by a demon. **3. ** To represent as evil or diabolic: wartime propaganda that demonizes the enemy.

I think you are correct to say that the Cathechism of the Catholic Church calls homosexual activity a grave and mortal sin leading to Hellfire without repentance or invincible ignorance instigated by Lucifer, who is a demon. Is that what you are implying?

 

[Publisher]

I haven’t been involved in the thread but I looked up the word demonize.

American Heritage Dictionary
1. to turn into or as if into a demon. 2. To possess by or as if by a demon. **3. ** To represent as evil or diabolic: wartime propaganda that demonizes the enemy.

I think you are correct to say that I, if not anyone else, calls homosexual activity a grave and mortal sin leading to Hellfire instigated by Lucifer, who is a demon. Is that what you are implying?

No…I am saying we “demonize” others at times because that is the only way we can blind ourselves to their humanity…we “demonize” others and attribute them with evil to justify our own feelings concerning our dislike of them or our justification in condemning them…gay people often are painted with broad brush strokes, intimating that their motives are less than wholesome so our own distrust and dislike of them can be justified.

In the matter of this thread…the grandparents were portrayed as “victims” while the gay couple was portrayed as “less than wholesome”…

To 'demonize" someone allows us to distance ourselves from them both emotionally and spiritually…when in truth we may have very little differences with them other than our ideology.

Hope that’s clear.

 

[ibkc]

In the matter of this thread…the grandparents were portrayed as “victims” while the gay couple was portrayed as “less than wholesome”…

And you flipped it right back around by stating that the grandparents obviously care more about money than about the kids, and strongly implied that the kids would be better off without them.

To 'demonize" someone allows us to distance ourselves from them both emotionally and spiritually…when in truth we may have very little differences with them other than our ideology.

Good description of “demonize” and a good description of what you’ve done with the grandparents in the story, maybe?

Hope that’s clear.

What is clear is that your self-appointed role of “correcting” Catholics and pointing out how wrong our worldview is at every turn, is getting old and tired.

 

[Publisher]

Peace to you Friend.

 

[rjs1]

I just think judging the gay parents simply because they are gay and “demonizing” them for no other reason has a different side to it…namely if “judging” is going to be carried out indicrimantly and in a “self-righteousness” tone…

Sure, I agree with you that the Grandparents appear to have given up too easily. However, as a Catholic, as a follower of the words of Scripture, I most ceratinly DO judge a homosexual couple to be absolutely unfit to raise children.

God’s condemnation of homosexuality is explicit. The Church’s teaching on this matter is explicit.

Tp place these children in the hands of homosexuals is absolute child abuse.

It shows how far Britain is sinking into the mire. Other countries are not far behind.

 

[court14]

What probably happened was that the council told them they would fight to the death and when the grandparents spoke to lawyers about the case, the lawyers demanded a substantial retainer of several thousand pounds (like $10,000 or more), plus wanting to know where they would get more money in the probable case that more was needed, and being pessimistic about the likelihood of their getting the children back on top of it all.

The council was probably under pressure not to back down for fear that the homosexual lobby would go ballistic.

This post is based on assumptions not fact and these assumptions clearly validate your underlying prejudice. You assume that the grandparents have been wronged because their dispute was with a homosexual couple. You have no information which supports this idea.

 

[brigid12]

Sure, I agree with you that the Grandparents appear to have given up too easily. However, as a Catholic, as a follower of the words of Scripture, I most ceratinly DO judge a homosexual couple to be absolutely unfit to raise children.

God’s condemnation of homosexuality is explicit. The Church’s teaching on this matter is explicit.

Tp place these children in the hands of homosexuals is absolute child abuse.

It shows how far Britain is sinking into the mire. Other countries are not far behind.

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