British royal's fiancée renounces Catholic faith

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British royal’s fiancée renounces Catholic faith
London, May. 2, 2008 (CWNews.com) - A young English woman has renounced her Catholic faith so that her fiancé, a member of the British royal family, can preserve is remote chance of assuming the throne.
Autumn Kelly, who was raised as a Catholic, has joined the Church of England. She will marry Peter Phillips-- who currently stands 11th in the line of succession to the throne-- on May 17. The Act of Settlement, passed in 1701, bars any Catholic, or anyone married to a Catholic, from becoming the British monarch.
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How sad for her.

Says no to a real King, and yes to never-gonna-be king.

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What king did she say no to? She’s still a Christian.

I doubt she took being Catholic that seriously if she’s willing to change just like that.
 
Do you see the folly when government is tied to religion? Our founding fathers did…that’s why there is not a single mention of god (small g intentional) in the constitution.

John
 
john1863 said:
Do you see the folly when government is tied to religion? Our founding fathers did…that’s why there is not a single mention of god (small g intentional) in the constitution.

John
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There is, however, mention of our “Creator”.
 
Rand_Al_Thor said:
There is, however, mention of our “Creator”.
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That’s in the Declaration of Independence. I can’t find any direct mention of Creator in the Constitution, but there is inference in the Preamble: “. . .secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity. . .”
 
ArdenB said:
What king did she say no to?
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Really, there are plenty of ways in which she rejected Christ. She rejected the fullness of His Truth (and He did say, “I am the truth”). She also rejected Him in the Eucharist, which she will no longer be receiving.

And, really, aren’t we past the point in time where it’s so terribly important for Britain to keep the Catholics down?

Sam, the Neon Orange Knight
 
Ne_OrangeKnight said:
Really, there are plenty of ways in which she rejected Christ. She rejected the fullness of His Truth (and He did say, “I am the truth”). She also rejected Him in the Eucharist, which she will no longer be receiving.

And, really, aren’t we past the point in time where it’s so terribly important for Britain to keep the Catholics down?

Sam, the Neon Orange Knight
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Perfectly stated!👍
 
ArdenB said:
What king did she say no to? She’s still a Christian.

I doubt she took being Catholic that seriously if she’s willing to change just like that.
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I never could understand anyone who would give up their religious faith for another person. I would NEVER do that, I would not give up my religion even if threatened with death.
 
HashemEchad said:
I never could understand anyone who would give up their religious faith for another person. I would NEVER do that, I would not give up my religion even if threatened with death.
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Do you mind if I inquire why your mother renounced hers?
 
MementoMori3283 said:
Do you mind if I inquire why your mother renounced hers?
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She had “issues” with her former religion, and when she discovered Orthodox Judaism, she felt she had “come home”, and so she converted to it.

She met my father (a born Jew) a few years after she converted, and her conversion created some issues because my Dad was not very religious at the time.
 
HashemEchad said:
She had “issues” with her former religion, and when she discovered Orthodox Judaism, she felt she had “come home”, and so she converted to it.

She met my father (a born Jew) a few years after she converted, and her conversion created some issues because my Dad was not very religious at the time.
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I suppose if I was a psychologist, her conversion could have been a way of dealing with her feelings of regret as a young girl that Romans had been the people who nailed Jesus to the Cross.

Since I’m not, and because I often have moments of doubt, I kindly ask if you would expand on your mother’s conversion. How did she “discover” Orthodox Judaism and the path “home”?
 
HashemEchad said:
I would not give up my religion even if threatened with death.
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The only response I have is one that should be pondered by anyone who has taken the time to investigate Jesus, through the Gospel and the fullness of Truth in the Church, and that is, of what value is this life? For whom do I remain steadfast in my beliefs?
 
MementoMori3283 said:
I suppose if I was a psychologist, her conversion could have been a way of dealing with her feelings of regret as a young girl that Romans had been the people who nailed Jesus to the Cross.

Since I’m not, and because I often have moments of doubt, I kindly ask if you would expand on your mother’s conversion. How did she “discover” Orthodox Judaism and the path “home”?
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I really don’t know all the early details, because it happened well before I was born. I only know what she, my Dad and other family members had told me when they were all still alive.

I think my mother was drawn to Judaism due to her converso heritage (which she did not consciously know about until the 1980s)…I just think that somehow she was drawn to Judaism for that reason. After all, her parents raised her as a Catholic but with some pretty weird ideas for Catholics (such as that pork was unclean and should not be eaten; that crucifixes were ‘bad luck’, that one should always light two candles before dinner on Friday nights, etc) I think whe she found Judaism, she just saw the familiarity in it from the converso customs her family had practiced, although outwardly professing to be Catholic.
 
Ne_OrangeKnight said:
And, really, aren’t we past the point in time where it’s so terribly important for Britain to keep the Catholics down?

Sam, the Neon Orange Knight
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The gaurds regiments ( Grenadier, Coldstream, Scots Gaurds, the guys who parade in frount of Buckingham palace ) are not, technically, part of the British army, they are part of the Queens household, that is, her private army. Anyway, last I checked, you couldn’t serve in a gaurds regiment if you were Catholic.

The Queen is still temporal head of the Church of England.

Does the Pope’s Swiss gaurd recruit protestant Swiss ?

There is a lot more to it than "keeping Catholics down. "
A LOT more.
Like, when the Catholic Stuart’s were dethroned and the House of Orange, and then the House of Hannover was invited in, it was with the understanding that no Catholic would ever rule again. I.e. it’s worked into the constitution.
 
kesa82 said:
The gaurds regiments ( Grenadier, Coldstream, Scots Gaurds, the guys who parade in frount of Buckingham palace ) are not, technically, part of the British army, they are part of the Queens household, that is, her private army. Anyway, last I checked, you couldn’t serve in a gaurds regiment if you were Catholic.

The Queen is still temporal head of the Church of England.

Does the Pope’s Swiss gaurd recruit protestant Swiss ?

There is a lot more to it than "keeping Catholics down. "
A LOT more.
Like, when the Catholic Stuart’s were dethroned and the House of Orange, and then the House of Hannover was invited in, it was with the understanding that no Catholic would ever rule again. I.e. it’s worked into the constitution.
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I’m honestly not sure what point you’re trying to make here. My point was that it’s a tad bit silly to have such laws around right now, since (as far as I can tell) the holy wars have ceased in Europe for quite some time.

Sam, the Neon Orange Knight
 
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