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Jesus tells us about a broad and a narrow road and that many are on the broad road and only a few on the narrow road.Would anyone care to conjecture what proportion/percentage are on each road - twinc
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Catholic90
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What does it matter? All percentages are purely conjecture. It probably changes from minute to minute. What is the point?
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John7
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10% :yukonjoe:
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kamalayka9
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If 100,000 people were to die right now, I would say that 7 went to heaven, 2 went to purgatory, and the rest went to hell.
I say this from the bottom of my heart, as God as my witness:
I believe I would be one of those in hell. If I were to die right now, in all likelihood I would be in hell.
I say this from the bottom of my heart, as God as my witness:
I believe I would be one of those in hell. If I were to die right now, in all likelihood I would be in hell.
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NotWorthy
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Could the 10 lepers who were cured by Jesus bring this to mind? Only 1 came back and expressed his gratitude.
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NotWorthy
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Another thought is as high as 50% - Jesus preaches that 2 are in the field; one will be taken and one will be left.
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BerhaneSelassie
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“He was it is true but one man “who had not the wedding garment. Cast him out.” But why is he cast out? "For many are called, but few chosen. " Leave alone the few, cast out the many. It is true, that man was but one. Yet undoubtedly that one not only was many, but those many in numbers far surpassed the number of the good…[continues on the few saved]”—St Augustine Homily 40:4 On the New Testament
The “way of the ungodly” is but a transitory happiness; at the end of the way the happiness is at an end also. Why? Because that way is "the broad road; " its termination leads to the pit of hell. Now, your way is narrow; and “few there be” that enter in through it: [Matthew 7:13-14] but into how ample a field it comes at the last, you ought to consider. “Fret not yourself at him who prospers in his way; because of the man who brings wicked devices to pass.”—St Augustine Exposition of Psalm 37
“Do you not see that it is better to have one healthy sheep, than ten thousand with the murrain; that fine children, though few, are better than many children diseased withal; that in the Kingdom there will be few, but in hell many? What have I to do with a multitude? what profit therein? None. Rather they are a plague to the rest. It is as if one who had the option of ten healthy persons or ten thousand sick folks, should take to himself the latter in addition to the ten.”—St John Chrysostom Homily 8 on Acts
"Yet doubtless there are but few who are saved. You remember a question which was lately set before us out of the Gospel, “Lord,” it was said, “are there few that be saved?” What said the Lord to this? He did not say, “Not few, but many are they who are saved.” He did not say this. But what said He, when He had heard, “Are there few that be saved? Strive to enter by the strait gate.” [Luke 13:24] When you hear then, “Are there few that be saved?” the Lord confirmed what He heard. Through the “strait gate” but “few” can “enter.” In another place He says Himself, “Strait and narrow is the way which leads unto life, and few there be that go thereby: but broad and spacious is the way that leads to destruction, and many there be which walk thereby.” Why rejoice we in great numbers? Give ear to me, you “few.” I know that you are “many,” who hear me, yet but “few” of you hear to obey.”—St Augustine Sermon 61 On The New Testament
“Consider therefore that you belong to the few and elect; and do not grow cold after the examples of the lukewarmness of many: but live as the few, that with the few you may be worthy of a place in the kingdom of God: for “many are called, but few chosen,” and it is a "little flock to which it is the Father’s good pleasure to give " an inheritance.”—St John Cassian Institutes 4:38
“There be very many come to the faith, yet but few arrive at the heavenly kingdom; many follow God in words, but shun Him in their lives. Whereof spring two things to be thought upon. The first, that none should presume ought concerning himself; for though he be called to the faith, he knows not whether he shall be chosen to the kingdom. Secondly, that none should despair of his neighbor, even though he see him lying in vices; because he knows not the riches of the Divine mercy.”—Pope Gregory the Great c AD 600
St. Leonard of Port Maurice O.F.M. (A.D. 1751) in a Homily on the Fewness of the saved says:
The “way of the ungodly” is but a transitory happiness; at the end of the way the happiness is at an end also. Why? Because that way is "the broad road; " its termination leads to the pit of hell. Now, your way is narrow; and “few there be” that enter in through it: [Matthew 7:13-14] but into how ample a field it comes at the last, you ought to consider. “Fret not yourself at him who prospers in his way; because of the man who brings wicked devices to pass.”—St Augustine Exposition of Psalm 37
“Do you not see that it is better to have one healthy sheep, than ten thousand with the murrain; that fine children, though few, are better than many children diseased withal; that in the Kingdom there will be few, but in hell many? What have I to do with a multitude? what profit therein? None. Rather they are a plague to the rest. It is as if one who had the option of ten healthy persons or ten thousand sick folks, should take to himself the latter in addition to the ten.”—St John Chrysostom Homily 8 on Acts
"Yet doubtless there are but few who are saved. You remember a question which was lately set before us out of the Gospel, “Lord,” it was said, “are there few that be saved?” What said the Lord to this? He did not say, “Not few, but many are they who are saved.” He did not say this. But what said He, when He had heard, “Are there few that be saved? Strive to enter by the strait gate.” [Luke 13:24] When you hear then, “Are there few that be saved?” the Lord confirmed what He heard. Through the “strait gate” but “few” can “enter.” In another place He says Himself, “Strait and narrow is the way which leads unto life, and few there be that go thereby: but broad and spacious is the way that leads to destruction, and many there be which walk thereby.” Why rejoice we in great numbers? Give ear to me, you “few.” I know that you are “many,” who hear me, yet but “few” of you hear to obey.”—St Augustine Sermon 61 On The New Testament
“Consider therefore that you belong to the few and elect; and do not grow cold after the examples of the lukewarmness of many: but live as the few, that with the few you may be worthy of a place in the kingdom of God: for “many are called, but few chosen,” and it is a "little flock to which it is the Father’s good pleasure to give " an inheritance.”—St John Cassian Institutes 4:38
“There be very many come to the faith, yet but few arrive at the heavenly kingdom; many follow God in words, but shun Him in their lives. Whereof spring two things to be thought upon. The first, that none should presume ought concerning himself; for though he be called to the faith, he knows not whether he shall be chosen to the kingdom. Secondly, that none should despair of his neighbor, even though he see him lying in vices; because he knows not the riches of the Divine mercy.”—Pope Gregory the Great c AD 600
St. Leonard of Port Maurice O.F.M. (A.D. 1751) in a Homily on the Fewness of the saved says:
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Umm, only God knows because He’s the only one who knows the true person and the true heart. too many folks judge by their own standards.God judges by His standards.If we Knew who was going and who wasn’t we’d be God. I’ll leave it to the Boss to figure it out and not speculate.
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thistle
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Absolute waste of time speculating!
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Shin
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Some good quotations, here.
The fear of God, is the beginning of wisdom. Whatever helps us to stop sinning… is good medicine however bitter.
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twinc
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a recent survey/research in America revealed that 2/3rds of Christian youths gave up the faith and were already gone before commencing employment or college and lest we say not Catholics,97%of Catholic school leavers in England walk away from the Church each year.So according to this yardstick only 3 or 4 % remain on the narrow road - twinc
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thistle
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Is that from official figures given by the Church or some random newspaper survey?
Your figures would indicate the number of Catholics in the country would be substantially reducing every year.
How does that fit with there being 4.1 million Catholics in England & Wales in 2001 and 4.5 million in 2009?
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twinc
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It is well known that the Catholic population was considerably boosted between 2001 and 2009 from Polish immigration etc - regarding figures given try very reliable all Catholic source at www.proecclesia.com and its newsletter The Flock[Crisis in the Church-page 3]vol.12 No.3 - twinc
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thistle
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Thanks for the site but can you tell me where in the site to look for the figures?
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PeterRabbit
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seagal
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IMO, if you have room to look around you and speculate about other people, you’re probably on the wrong road. Just my :twocents:
As someone else said, it’s pointless to worry about numbers. It’s hard enough just to keep on track.
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sure - click on Archives in left hand index column and then click on Vol.12 No.3 and scroll down to page 3 - Why the crisis in the Church - twinc
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