Buckley's son comments of Gingrich's conversion this weekend

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How providence works to uphold the faith and morals is not mine to discern. I am only glad that the faith and morals of the Church have been upheld forever.
 
ChristinaM said:
I hardly ever read articles in the mainstream media on Catholicism which allow comments, for this very reason. The comment section is little more than a continuous stream of hateful invectives directed towards Catholics and the Catholic Church.
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In the sorrowful mysteries, the unbelievers were so utterly savage against Him. Do we see in their reactions a glimpse of the hate that will be in those separated eternally from love?

Oh my Jesus forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell and lead all souls to heaven. amen.
 
I always think of Magdalene, she loved much because, she was forgiven much…I think that is why some of our best saints have had murky pasts they overcame, and they were God’s Superstars
 
redrosetea said:
My BIL got an annulment…It took a long time and all claims he made had to be documented…He is not wealthy …Everything had to be proven and his wife had the chance to object

My bil is devout and his faith means a great deal to him, his ex couldn’t care less, and as far as I know stopped going to church
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What does that mean - “all claims he made had to be documented”? To get an annulment you simply make your claims (both in a personal interview and by answering a formulated list of questions) and you get to pick 3 witnesses of your choice to answer the exact same formulated list of questions (where it’s ok for them to simply skip most of them claiming lack of personal knowledge) and then, if your ex doesn’t choose to participate in the process, that’s the entire body of evidence. Nothing more. Is that what you call “documentation”? In reality it’s a very specious process.
 
30miller said:
What does that mean - “all claims he made had to be documented”? To get an annulment you simply make your claims (both in a personal interview and by answering a formulated list of questions) and you get to pick 3 witnesses of your choice to answer the exact same formulated list of questions (where it’s ok for them to simply skip most of them claiming lack of personal knowledge) and then, if your ex doesn’t choose to participate in the process, that’s the entire body of evidence. Nothing more. Is that what you call “documentation”? In reality it’s a very specious process.
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He had to put his claims in writing and furnish proof of what he had charged…I am not going to say more than this It is a private matter
 
redrosetea said:
He had to put his claims in writing and furnish proof of what he had charged…I am not going to say more than this It is a private matter
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That’s your right. I have no such qualms, however. I filed for an annulment last August. I received the official annulment in January. And I live in what would be identified as one of the more conservative dioceses in the country. I had one personal interview with the diocesan deacon assigned to the Tribunal that lasted 1 1/2 hours max. I filled out one interrogatory (maybe 50 questions - written answers). I selected 3 “witnesses”. They each filled out the identical interrogatory (which I thought was absurd as a lot of the questions are VERY personal in nature which I would assume would only be known to the husband and wife in 99+% of cases. I thought at least the diocese could tailor an interrogatory to the witnesses). Each of the 3 skipped the vast majority of the questions and what they basically did was try to insert their observations as “witnesses” where they could fit them in among the remaining questions - hardly an overwhelming block of “documentation” as a whole. That’s it. My Ex never participated.
P.S. I never met with a priest once on this. It wasn’t until after I got the annulment when I called the Tribunal to lodge a complaint about the annulment that I got to talk to the priest in charge of the Tribunal. That’s another story.
 
Mr. Buckley’s comments regarding Mr. Gingrich’s conversion to Catholicism are indeed negative and, as such, easily ignored. Unless Mr. Gingrich chooses to share them, the reasons for his conversion are between him and God. I have no reason to doubt the sincerity of Mr. Gingrich’s conversion, but even if his motives are impure I believe that God’s grace can work through that and create something beautiful and lasting. My prayers and best wishes are with the Gingrich family.
 
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