Why would a larger audience be a minute section of the population?I guess I don’t really have much to say since I know little about Catholic teaching, but I think it’d be a bit too much to complain or make a scene. The books probably aren’t catering to Catholics or the religious right. They’re probably aimed at a larger audience, which would include homosexuals. Maybe you should just look for different travel guides?
The larger audience is one that includes homosexuals, as he explained. And I repeat my point from earlier. Even if you dislike “the gay scene,” these books can just as easily show you which places to avoid.Why would a larger audience be a minute section of the population?
No, they include those sections because they want money, and think that including them will get more money. Morality is not the concern of capitalistic businesses with few exceptions.
You’re confusing the business’ motivation with the motivations of the customers they are appealing to. Businesses do things that they think their customers or potential customers want, or sometimes as in this case to create a certain image for the company brand which they hope will gain approval from governments and other powerful forces in society.
No, I am not at all. I stated that companies want money. Are you claiming that the motivation of the consumers is to want the company to make money? If not, then my post is clearly correct.
The motivation of the consumers as perceived by the corporations is to congregate together etc… The motivation of the corporation is to make money (in all likelihood), and it happens that the company feels that including sections about gay stuff in cities leads to that. There is no suggestion that the company actually desires to “enable” anyone or anything.
Uh…I hardly think that most of Frommer, Lonely Planet, etc. consumers have a sense of the company’s “image” or even care. I also have no reason whatsoever to believe said companies care about or would benefit from any “governments” or “other powerful forces” in this context beyond making money, which is exactly what I said in the first place.
Using your logic, the LARGEST audience would be Christians. Therefore you would have no problem with travel guides catering to religious values. I guess it could just tell you which places to avoid.
You are playing these semantic games on another thread and I am not going to get sucked into them again here.
No, see - the largest audience includes secularists like myself, gay people, and Christians who aren’t so terrified of homosexuality that they wouldn’t deign to read a book that refers to gays as though they venture outdoors on occasion.Using your logic, the LARGEST audience would be Christians. Therefore you would have no problem with travel guides catering to religious values. I guess it could just tell you which places to avoid.
Yeah the good old “homophobe” taunt. Sorry buddy, you can’t intimidate everyone into silence with that form of bullying. Nobody here is “terrified of homosexuality”. We just don’t want to have it constantly shoved at us with demands that we approve it.
Acceptable, maybe, but it doesn’t appear necessary to choose the alternative pharmacy, even though some of its products may be inappropriate.
I said your assumption was a bit vain, because as Baleor pointed out, the publishing company is interested in your money, not changing your opinion.
It is disordered though.
Come on now, you may be Daddy’s Girl but you can’t be that naive. These bars exist primarily for the purpose of picking up new sexual partners.
They most certainly are not.
Billions of non-Catholics object to homosexuality. In most cases more so than most Catholics.
Yes I have absolutely no doubt that some atheists do exactly that. On another site recently atheists were complaining that hearing Christmas carols had put “Christian words” in their heads which were hateful to them.
Not just that, there’s quite a few places in the world where it’s very unsafe to share your orientation. It’s something a gay or lesbian tourist should be aware of.
I was merely giving my own opinions and feelings. I certainly wasn’t claiming that Catholcis are obliged to do, think and feel as I do, as you seem to imply.
What you called “vain” was my paragraph “The other thing is I guess that it just leaves a nasty taste in your mouth and puts a dampener on things when you’re trying to do something fun like planning a holiday trip, to have homoseual activity shoved in your face when you least expect it, as happens all the time these days everywhere you look, somebody is demanding that you accept this stuff as normal and good. You’d like to think you could have a little break from these demands occasionally especially when you’re on holiday.”
In the magazines and books I’ve seen and used, it’s not just “a small paragraph” or a discreet list. It’s a whole big section of the book PLUS parts of just about EVERY other section of the book. It’s not really practicable to just avoid it or black it out or tear out the pages etc.Gays aren’t going anywhere. They are part of our society. They are our neighbors, brothers, sisters, coworkers, teachers, friends. I say we just learn to live and let live. If they get a small paragraph in a magazine listing points of interest to them - how does it hurt us?
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LOL describe a lot. Are you saying that with the number of people in a given city “a lot” are at a gay bar? .001% ? Heck even 10 percent of a city with a million people in it would be 100,000 DIFFERENT gay bar customers. They do not draw near that kind of percentage. So again, what is a large audience? In my city there are 3 gay bars/clubs my city is about 500,000 people. maybe 5,000 total DIFFERENT people have been to the bars. But yet, you would not see ads for the bars on local radio or TV stations. Why is that?
There is absolutely no need for anyone to “share his orientation” [sic] with a stranger.