Byzantine Missal

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Does anyone know of a place to get a copy of the Byzantine Daily Missal from then-Fr. Raya in 1958?

Thanks!!
 
smad0142 said:
Does anyone know of a place to get a copy of the Byzantine Daily Missal from then-Fr. Raya in 1958?

Thanks!!
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If you haven’t seen it, there is a very recent thread about this same thing: [thread=551849] Byzantine Daily Worship[/thread].
 
I started that thread too. The Byzantine Missal and the BDW are two different things, thats why I included specifics about the Missal.

Thanks though!!
 
I’ve never heard or come across a Missal done by Kyr (Archbishop) Raya. Are you referring to the translation of the Divine Liturgy that he did along with Baron Jose deVink? If that’s what you’re refering to then it’s available from Madonna House Publications and Eastern Christian Publications. The Eparchy of Newton uses a more or less revised edition of Kyr Raya’s DL translation. Primarily they changed such phrases as “humankind” and “every human being” simply to “mankind”. I’m almost 50 - 50 on whether I think that’s an improvement or not. On the surface it certainly seems like an improvement because Kyr Raya’s translation sounds like it’s trying to use inclusive language. But the more you read his translation, especially when read in continuity with his other writings, the more you realize he’s not trying to use inclusive language at all, but merely bringing out certain emphases of the Greek texts. But I digress.

Perhaps you’re referring to the translations of the Gospel and Apostol that Kyr Raya did, again in conjunction with Baron Jose deVink. If those are what you are looking for then good luck. They are almost as difficult to come by as the BDW, and almost as expensive when you do come across them.
 
No its the Byzantine Missal. Plain and simple title, but it is a little known work of his that I have seen in libraries but rarely for sale.
 
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No its the Byzantine Missal. Plain and simple title, but it is a little known work of his that I have seen in libraries but rarely for sale.
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The “Byzantine Missal” you are talking about is owned (copyright) by the Ruthenians. Kyr Raya did a bit of work for them in the 1960s when they were getting into English…they will not reprint or sell the copyright.
 
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That doesnt mean it cant be bought though. 🙂
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Its been out of print for decades. I have an old tattered copy…how bad do you want it? 😃

It is full of good ole Uniate stuff. 😃 Might be worth saving.
 
Ciero,

I want it fairly badly. Define tattered or PM me some pictures hahah
 
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Ciero,

I want it fairly badly. Define tattered or PM me some pictures hahah
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I’ll see if I can find it…sometime late in Bright week I’ll have some time. Remind me if you dont hear from me in a week or so.
 
I’m curious to know just what exactly are the contents of the Byzantine Missal by Kyr Raya. I too would be interested in finding a copy if at all possible. Kyr Raya is one of my personal heroes. 😃
 
Phillip,

I was able to get the Missal from a different source so you can try and get it from Ciero. I love the litrugical work of His Grace Raya and Baron Vinck. These men truly knew what it is to breath with both lungs.
 
smad0142 said:
Phillip,

I was able to get the Missal from a different source so you can try and get it from Ciero. I love the litrugical work of His Grace Raya and Baron Vinck. These men truly knew what it is to breath with both lungs.
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Ciero,

If you are still interested in getting rid of your Byzantine Missal I would be interested in obtaining a copy. Could we possibly work out a deal? I understand if you want to hold on to it.
 
Phillip_Rolfes said:
Ciero,

If you are still interested in getting rid of your Byzantine Missal I would be interested in obtaining a copy. Could we possibly work out a deal? I understand if you want to hold on to it.
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Sorry I haven’t had time to try and find it yet…I’ll let you know.
 
Phillip_Rolfes said:
Ciero,

If you are still interested in getting rid of your Byzantine Missal I would be interested in obtaining a copy. Could we possibly work out a deal? I understand if you want to hold on to it.
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You can still get the 1995 Byzantine Book of Prayer for $20. Byzantine Seminary Press (illustration and some translations are from Archbishop Joseph Raya and Baron Jose de Vinck):
BYZANTINE BOOK OF PRAYER (English, hardbound) w/Divine Liturgy of St. John and St. Basil, Molebens, Acathist, Parastas, Tropars/Kondaks, private prayers and Devotions, 6½ X 4½, $20.00 This is not the book Byzantine Daily Worship, but the second edition of Byzantine Book of Prayer.

byzsempress.com/
 
Vico said:
You can still get the 1995 Byzantine Book of Prayer for $20. Byzantine Seminary Press (illustration and some translations are from Archbishop Joseph Raya and Baron Jose de Vinck):
BYZANTINE BOOK OF PRAYER (English, hardbound) w/Divine Liturgy of St. John and St. Basil, Molebens, Acathist, Parastas, Tropars/Kondaks, private prayers and Devotions, 6½ X 4½, $20.00 This is not the book Byzantine Daily Worship, but the second edition of Byzantine Book of Prayer.

byzsempress.com/
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This sounds similar to the new “Publican’s Prayer Book” published by the Eparchy of Newton. Although it doesn’t have the Divine Liturgies, nor does it have Molebens since they are part of the Slavic tradition and not the Byzantine/Greek tradition. I’m not sure what Parastas is. Is it the same as Paraklesis?

I have a copy of Vols. 1 and 2 of “Let Us Pray to the Lord” published by Eastern Christian Publications. Although they don’t have any of the Raya/DeVinck translations, they are still very nice and handy little volumes. I admit, however, that I do prefer the translations contained in the “Publican’s Prayer Book.” For me personally they just feel more poetic and “prayable.” But that’s just a preference.
 
Phillip_Rolfes said:
This sounds similar to the new “Publican’s Prayer Book” published by the Eparchy of Newton. Although it doesn’t have the Divine Liturgies, nor does it have Molebens since they are part of the Slavic tradition and not the Byzantine/Greek tradition. I’m not sure what Parastas is. Is it the same as Paraklesis?

I have a copy of Vols. 1 and 2 of “Let Us Pray to the Lord” published by Eastern Christian Publications. Although they don’t have any of the Raya/DeVinck translations, they are still very nice and handy little volumes. I admit, however, that I do prefer the translations contained in the “Publican’s Prayer Book.” For me personally they just feel more poetic and “prayable.” But that’s just a preference.
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Parastas is the memorial service.

The book includes (but without and music):

Introduction to the Byzantine Rite (by Archbishop Joseph Raya)
General Prayers
Psalms fo rVarious Intentions
Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom
Liturgy of St. Basil
The Eight Tones of the Resurrection
Vesper Verses According to the Eight Tnes
Triodion and Pentacostarion
From Easter to All-Saints
Moleben to Jesus
Acathist to Jesus
Moleben to Mary
Acathist to Mary
Paraclesis
Christian Buial
Menaion
Sacrament of Reconciliation
Various Liturgies:
Liturgy for a Special Intension
Liturgy for the Help of the Holy Spirit
Liturgy for the Sick
Liturgy of Thanksgiving
Liturgy for the Dead
Memorial Service (Panachida)
 
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