C&E are over, has your parish finally gotten the new translation down?

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We’ve had many feasts in the past months and two major solemnities, as well as the Triduum itself. So is your parish finally getting the new translation down? Musically? Spoken?

The problem with my parish continues to be (as it was with the old translation) that the choir doesn’t sing loudly enough. It’s very bad when no one sings the Ordinary of the Mass except the choir, and they sing-speak it in a medium voice. They want us to sing, but no one will because there is no support from the choir itself.

But as far as acclimatizing to the new words themselves, people pretty much have that down. There were some funny looks from people yesterday, those who had not been to Mass in a long time and were browsing the handouts, but even they basically got it together.

How about your parish now that we’ve been a few months and a few holidays in?

Additionally, there were a few new/changed rubrics for the Triduum. How well did your parish adapt to these?
 
My parish did okay even with having many visitors and those who do not go to Mass often. Still they project the responses, and will do so for a while until they know they become second nature like the old ones were.
 
MissRose73 said:
My parish did okay even with having many visitors and those who do not go to Mass often.
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Same at my parish (without projections). In fact, I was pleasantly surprised at Easter Vigil – I expected a lot more people to be giving the old responses.
Maybe we just don’t have as many “Easter & Christmas” parishioners as some places. 🙂
 
We’ve pretty much got it down. Most, like myself, still need to look at the card for the Creed.
 
Brendan said:
We’ve pretty much got it down. Most, like myself, still need to look at the card for the Creed.
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Same. I think that the Daily Mass attendees are really helpful, because they know all the responses so well that they lead the rest of us. I’m grateful for them!
 
Our parish has most of it. Some people still say “Lord, I am not worthy to receive you, but only say the word and I shall be healed”, that’s about it. The Diocese has us using one setting of the Mass which every church has to use. It’s the only thing we don’t like. It’s horrible, and it’s one of those ones that tries to be catchy like a tune-show song. It’s disgusting, but we have no other choice. But, I have the TLM so…

But other than that, people are used to the “And with your spirit”. At the Easter vigil, our Parish Priest got up before Mass and explained what to say. He did the procession with the candle in Latin (responses and everything)- just to confuse the twice-a-year Catholics, I think. He’s a funny man, he always does things like that.
 
My parish has, I haven’t! Only due to the fact that because of my job I am not able to attend Mass every week like I used to. I have to make a very conscious decision in thinking of the words. The old has been floating around in my head for so long, but eventually the same thing will happen with the new words.
 
We (collectively) are still struggling: “And also with your spirit…I am not worthy to receive you under my roof…one in CONSUBTANTIAL with the Father…”
 
In the two Toronto parishes I attend mass in,one during the week, and my parish church at weekends, they know the proper responses.They do not stand in the proper place though, just before the consecration, but wait a while as in the past.
However, in Canada we usually say the Apostles Creed while in the USA you say the Nicene Creed. One Sunday, many weeks ago the priest at Sunday Mass confused everyone by saying the Nicene creed, which we Canadians don’t know. We were fumbling about when it was said.
I wrote an E mail to our priest asking father to let us know which creed he was going to say that Sunday, by announcing it beforehand. I received no reply.
Anyhow, things are back to the old normal now, as the Apostles Creed is being said, and we all memorize that one.
 
Where’s the option for very well?🙂 "cos that’s how our parish is doing.
 
The most noticeable slip recently in my parish occurred last week (Palm Sunday) when Father began chanting a bit more than usual, including the preface. Some of the congregation still chanted that “It is right to give him thanks and praise”, many were at a loss how to respond in chant. It was so weak, Father gave a raised eyebrow from the altar and chanted the response himself. It was a good example – the people were much more confident this week.

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My parish is doing quite well.

However if the priest/deacon speaks a part that’s usually chanted it or uses different chant tones than what we are used to hearing then all bets are off as to whether or not the correct response gets used.
 
My parish is doing pretty well. One funny thing, though: I went to Easter Vigil and figured the translation wouldn’t be an issue since you’d figure the only ones showing up to it would be either the ones being baptized/confirmed and their families, or the more devoted, regular crowd. I didn’t notice any slip-ups throughout Mass, but at the very end when Father said, “The Lord be with you,” the older guy to my right belted out a very loud, “And also with you!”
 
Over here in New Zealand, we’ve had the new responses, chants, Creed etc etc for about 15 months so we have it down really well now and I never hear the old ones:thumbsup:

However, we have only just got the new Roman Missal with the new Mass prayers and new eucharistic prayers.

Have you already got those?

I am struggling with them, to be honest!! I find them wordy and convoluted (especially the first Eucharistic prayer) and I’m nostalgic for the “old” ones, which seemed prayerful and dignified to me.

I accept this change, but…🤷

Any encouragement out there?? Do you like them? Can you help me like them?🙂
 
I was anticipating a lot of “and also with you”'s yesterday at the Easter Sunday Masses, but “And with your spirit” resounded pretty well. Same with “Lord, I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof…” It went down pretty well, but there are still some mix-ups. Last weekend at the choir Mass, they were teaching us the new Heritage Mass Sanctus, and instead of getting ready to sing “Lord God of hosts”, they were holding the notes to sing “Lord God of power and might”. I don’t know how the choir of all things can mess up the translation words because they have probably had the most time with it. I went to Confirmation about a month ago at a different parish, and when the bishop was chanting the invitation at the beginning of the Eucharistic prayer, they would chant, “And also with you” and “It is right to give Him thanks and praise”. Hopefully they’ve learned their lesson. 😃

We are definately doing better than at Christmas.
 
The parish is doing great. No “and also with your spirits” at Easter Vigil.

The priests, however, still occasionally muddle it up a little. I was commenting about this to my spiritual director, who has been a priest for forty-five years.

He mentioned that in seminary he learned Latin, and goofed it up for several months when the Mass was changed to English. And he mentioned that he realized he needed new bifocals about a month ago when he lost his place in the lectionary, and repeated part of the canon. The newer translation wasn’t completely familiar to him, and he told me he had the same sensation as when he got lost on the Beltway when he was first stationed in Washington, DC. Things sounded vaguely familiar to him as he read, and he said the only other time he felt that way was when he saw the Capitol in his windshield for the third time!

I guess it figures: When you do something day in, day out, for forty-odd years, there’s bound to be a glitch when you have to do the same thing differently.

I’ve got to admire his humility.
 
We had quite a few “Chreasters” (Christmas and Easter Catholics) saying “and also with you”. A nun with the chalice said “The body of Christ”.
But there wasn’t much else to make mistakes with at the 9 a.m. Gregorian chant mass Easter Sunday.🙂 And everyone was so blessed and happy afterwards, nothing seemed to matter.
(OT: I even took a taxi home from church. The cabbie was a Muslim and asked me about the Easter feast.)😉
 
  1. At the early morning Mass on Easter the Gloria was recited. People didn’t seem to be able to follow it.
  2. One person getting confirmed at the Easter Vigil got nervous and responded “and with your soul.”
  3. However, I had my own problems at the Chrism Mass since I’m not used to doing the responses. I responded to the bishop’s greeting with “and also with you.” Later on I said, “it is it right to give Him thanks and praise.” LOL. At least I was better than the priest behind me who accidentally said “for you and for all” during the consecration…
 
“And also with you” is still a problem (I know that unless I’m really concentrating on the response or following along in the missal, that’s what pops out of my mouth before the Gospel) along with “It is right and just” and “Lord I am not worthy…” We seem to do better with the Creed and the Gloria because we feel compelled to read those rather than try to recite them from memory.

Of course at Easter, the Gloria wasn’t a problem because it was sung and the 3 official ‘Canadian settings’ are all responsorial; neither was the Creed since it was the Renewal of Baptismal Promises.
 
Imagine the silence, and the look on people’s faces when our Priest chanted “LUMEN CHRSTI!”.

Like Phemie noted, we have “3 official settings”. We are not allowed to use the proper ICEL chants. No, heaven forbid we do something APPROVED by the Church.

I forgot to say that there were, now that I think of it, a lot of “A with also your with your spirit with you”'s.
 
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