It gets a lot more lenient over age 14 and things become misdemeanors.Any person who has sex with a minor under the age of 14 will be charged with a felony and may serve 3, 6, or 8 years in prison if convicted. They will also have to register as a sex offender in California, a requirement that may have devastating effects on their lives and careers.
Their? Are you talking about more than one? How about “his” or “her”Imagine an 18 year old who has consensual sex with their 17 year old girlfriend.
Imagine an 18 year old who lays in marital congress with his or her paramour.Their? Are you talking about more than one? How about “his” or “her”
While I don’t care for it, “them” and “their” are used as gender neutral singular pronouns too. At first glance this appears to be a recent change in language, but is has been used in writing throughout history this way. It isn’t a usage that I hope to adopt myself. But I know, when i encounter it, that it could be used either way.Their? Are you talking about more than one? How about “his” or “her”
I don’t consider people gender neutral. With the misuse of pronouns and the creation of artificial ones, perhaps I’m a bit sensitive to it.While I don’t care for it, “them” and “their” are used as gender neutral singular pronouns too.
Historically, “gender” has been a word for a grammatical category while “sex” a biological category. “Gender neutral” in the above refers to the category if the word.I don’t consider people gender neutral.
I understand the grammatical usage. Der, die, das in German, etc.Historically, “gender” has been a word for a grammatical category while “sex” a biological category. “Gender neutral” in the above refers to the category if the word.
I understand the, too. See above.They” is gender neutral. What we are seeing more frequently is it being used for a singular referent. “They” does not ascribe to a person “male” or “female”. It just does not specify.
It’s not the worst penalty they can get.Let’s question what is being done, what penalties for older males in general and then we can better understand the law. If the worse thing that these men get is a time on a sex offenders list, that does not seem appropriate.
There is no talk of age 16, the age it is set at is age 14.There should be no difference in legal penalties based on the sexual orientation of the offender.
I personally believe the age of “discretion” of the judge should be 16 not 14 for heater or homosexual cases but that’s just me.
This law is about 14 -17 so yes these are underage children. This is not about a 16 and 18 years old, it about a 10 year spread in age. starting at age 14.I don’t support these acts with an underage person.
I don’t support legalization of such acts (some of the hysteria from anti-gay extremists may create the impression that this legislation would “legalize” it).
But I believe that, when appropriate, people should be given a second chance in life.
The people have decided, through the legislature, that an 18-year old makes a mistake on prom night with his 16-year-old girlfriend, that he won’t be required to register (the court still may require him to register). That person, as far as we know, is still attracted to women/girls of about his own age (as most young men are). Therefore, when he’s a little older, he won’t be a threat to 16-year-old girls.
Now, if the girl is under 14, that’s different. If the man is 50 and the girl is 16, that’s different.
And I agree with that. That 18-year-old, in a few years, might be in a solid Catholic marriage and might be a responsible citizen. It might be way too much of a punishment for his name and picture to be posted on the Internet as a predator for all to see.
Now, what this legislation would do is the same thing for LGBT men. And again I agree with that. I can see the argument that a 60- or 80-year-old LGBT man who needs housing and who isn’t a threat to anyone should be punished in this wa
The sponsor of the bill is age 50 and that could be his son, not sure but it is an “ouch”The sponsor of the bill, ouch. Senator Scott Wiener, picture in the below story:.
https://www.waynedupree.com/2020/09/california-pedophile-law/?utm_source=right-rail-trending
I tend to think those called sex criminals are, overall, sick to our way of thinking. People say people do things and they are evil but I tend to think it is in their system. Are we really talking about the rarer cases of 18 and 17 year olds or something else?
Gov. Gavin Newsom Signs Bill Reducing Penalties for Sodomy with Minors
Gov. Gavin Newsom (D-CA) signed a controversial bill into law Friday that will give judges greater discretion to decide whether adults who commit sodomy with minors should be placed on California’s sex offender registry.
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The bill, which passed the Democrat-led legislature last week, created a firestorm as proponents said its main purpose was to end discrimination against LGBT adults who have oral and anal sex with minors who claim to be consenting to the sexual activity. . . .
. . . . Wiener claimed the existing law, which states oral and anal sex between an adult within ten years of the age of a consenting minor requires the adult to be registered as a sex offender, discriminates against LGBT individuals . . .
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The Washington Examiner reported Democrat Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez said as the bill was being debated:
San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulconer (R) also tweeted after Newsom signed the bill into law, “As a parent I’m appalled that last night our governor signed a law maintaining a 24-year-old can have sex with a 14-year-old and it not be considered predatory.”I cannot in my mind as a mother understand how sex between a 24-year-old and a 14-year-old could ever be consensual, how it could ever not be a registrable offense. We should never give up on this idea that children should be in no way subject to a predator.
“An adult who commits ANY sex act on a minor 10 years younger must be registered a sex offender,” he added. “Law must be changed.” . . .
. . . .The legislation also assumes teens as young as 14 are capable of fully consenting to sex of any variety with any adult, regardless of sexual orientation.
Attorney and researcher Jane Robbins said in a statement to Breitbart News, “The Left wants to sexualize children, period, and to remove penalties for adult predators.” . . .
Pediatric group condemns California bill to soften penalties for sex offenders against minors
The American College of Pediatricians contends Senate Bill 145 ‘strains the bounds of common sense that any legislator would allow to pass … into law.’
Fri Sep 11, 2020
By Calvin Freiburger
September 11, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is speaking out against divisive California legislation that would empower judges to forgo adding those who engage in homosexual sex with certain minors to the state sex offender registry, demanding that lawmakers strengthen existing laws instead of weakening them.
California law forbids performing sex acts with a minor, but oral and anal intercourse requires that the older partner register as a sex offender, wheras in the case of vaginal intercourse judges have the discretion to choose whether to require registration. Senate Bill 145, introduced by Democrat state Sen. Scott Wiener, extends that judicial discretion to all three acts, so long as the victim is at least 14 and the offender “is not more than 10 years older than the minor.” . . .
. . . . “The existing laws in question were placed into the California Statutes to prevent the abuse of minors, whose intellectual immaturity makes them vulnerable,” former ACPeds president Dr. Joseph Zanga said in a press release. “These proposed modifications put more children at increased risk of abuse. It strains the bounds of common sense that any legislator (some of whom must be parents) would allow such proposals to pass out of Committee much less to pass them into law.”
The group noted that even non-forcible statutory rape is recognized as childhood sexual abuse because children “cannot consent to sexual relations with adults due to their cognitive immaturity and the psychological power differential inherent to the relationship,” and that childhood sexual abuse is “associated with elevated rates of mental illness including depression, anxiety, substance use, altered body image, self-mutilation and suicide attempts.” . . .