Call to Action members to present petition to bishop

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Glennon_P said:
Could be interesting Friday afternoon outside the Lincoln Chancery…journalstar.com/articles/2007/05/30/news/local/doc465d8f9b37df7227093669.txt
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Could also amount to nothing. You are talking about a group of people who’s lack of respect for Church authority is only trumped by the Bishop’s disregard for their organization.
Lincoln Diocese has refused to participate in the voluntary audit
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Key word, voluntary. They don’t have to do it. If the faithful members of the Lincoln Diocese demanded it, that would be a different story. CTA’s demand is sort of like the Taliban demanding the USA to follow the Kyoto Protocol.
This year Lincoln was the only U.S. diocese that did not participate.
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That says something. Perhaps the faithful in the Lincoln Diocese have something to say about it, but CTA is just a loud clanging gong (in the biblical sense).

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With the National leaders there, maybe Bishop Bruskewitz can excommunicate them too.

It is time the Church rids itself of extreemists at both ends of the spectrum.
 
This should be interesting. The supposed irresistable force meets the supposed immovable object. Although it doesn’t get a lot of notice, Lincoln, Nebraska has much diversity. It is the capital of Nebraska, it has the University, the Penitentiary, some very strict Catholics, Nazis and a dash of Posse Comitatus. Call to Action is just another interest group among many. We’ll see how this all turns out. I’m betting the “confrontation” turns into a non-event.
 
Glennon_P said:
Could be interesting Friday afternoon outside the Lincoln Chancery…
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you see they have arranged advance press coverage and no doubt will have a full complement of press on hand when they do their grandstanding, that is their tactic, whether they are protesting “men only” ordinations or any of their other pet peeves. they could not care less about the bishop’s stand on the very problematic bishop’s child abuse prevention effort, they are interested only in free publicity for their other agenda.
 
puzzleannie said:
you see they have arranged advance press coverage and no doubt will have a full complement of press on hand when they do their grandstanding, that is their tactic, whether they are protesting “men only” ordinations or any of their other pet peeves. they could not care less about the bishop’s stand on the very problematic bishop’s child abuse prevention effort, they are interested only in free publicity for their other agenda.
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Well, sure. Trying to secure maximum publicity is what interest and protest groups of every stripe always do. I don’t have any problem with that. Unless interest groups can get publicity, they are just part of the white noise, and as such will be ignored. The press will give the Bishop opportunity to respond and comment. I’m sure he will be adequately prepared.
 
I was there yesterday morning. CTA was supposed to show up at 2:45 Friday, but we found out an hour before that they called the press and changed the time to 11:00. In 45 minutes to an hour, there were over 100 supporters of Bishop Bruskewitz there. We sang, we prayed, it was very effective. There were 9 CTA people there and I thing they were surprised when they saw us.
 
Regi said:
I was there yesterday morning. CTA was supposed to show up at 2:45 Friday, but we found out an hour before that they called the press and changed the time to 11:00. In 45 minutes to an hour, there were over 100 supporters of Bishop Bruskewitz there. We sang, we prayed, it was very effective. There were 9 CTA people there and I thing they were surprised when they saw us.
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If figures, they wanted to have the upper hand. If there was noone there to confront them, they would of said that ALL Catholics agreed with them. This is a typical tactic of the modernists in the Chuch.
 
WanderAimlessly said:
If there was noone there to confront them, they would of said that ALL Catholics agreed with them. This is a typical tactic of the modernists in the Chuch.
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:confused: A typical modernist tactic is to claim that all Catholics agree with them? I have never run into that. Can you point to an example?
 
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Nine members of the group Call to Action stood outside the Cathedral of the Risen Christ Friday … But they were upstaged by more than 100 local Catholics who came together on less than an hour’s notice to show support for the bishop.

But in about a day and a half, the group on the other side collected more than 1,400 signatures on a petition praising the bishop and thanking him for his service.

Doug Vandervort, who headed up the supporters’ petition campaign, noted that signatures came from people in Lincoln and several other states and were collected in 31 hours. Call to Action’s 1,000 signatures were collected over several months, he said.
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Digitonomy said:
WanderAimlessly;2296958:
If figures, they wanted to have the upper hand. If there was no one there to confront them, they would of said that ALL Catholics agreed with them. This is a typical tactic of the modernists in the Church.
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:confused: A typical modernist tactic is to claim that all Catholics agree with them? I have never run into that. Can you point to an example?
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I think what WanderAimlessly meant is that all modernists (aka former Catholics) would say that all “thinking Catholics” agree with them. Only mindless fundamentalists, the intolerant and uncharitable disagree with them. This is true of all “liberal” movements, be they religious liberals or political liberals.

Am I right, WanderAimlessly? It that what you meant?
 
rpp said:
I think what WanderAimlessly meant is that all modernists (aka former Catholics) would say that all “thinking Catholics” agree with them. Only mindless fundamentalists, the intolerant and uncharitable disagree with them. This is true of all “liberal” movements, be they religious liberals or political liberals.

Am I right, WanderAimlessly? It that what you meant?
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Fascinating! Not one commentor noted how upside down this controversy is! There are dozens of bishops around the country who abrogated their duty for YEARS and ignored or delegated away the responsibility for dealing with sexual predators who had infiltrated the priesthood. Where does CTA show up to protest? At one of the VERY FEW diocese where the bishop has the proven record of leadership, vigilance and responsibility to actually prevent sexual abuse of children. This bishop has taken personal responsibility for ensuring the sanctity of the priesthood instead of delegating it away to a comittee reviewed by an audit group thousands of miles away! The fact that this seminarian was caught BEFORE he ws ordained is exhibit A that Lincon’s process works. The bureaucratic committee review and audit is farce designed for public relations, not top effectiveness. CTA OUGHT to be protesting in the dioceses where the bishops failed for many years to do their own duty and STILL are failing to do it by passing the buck to others to do the bishop’s job.
The untold tragedy of the priest abuse scandal is that it is a NOT a priest abuse scandal. It is a universal cultural scandal!!! Teachers, ministers, coaches, counselors, tutors, babysitters… Abusers are out there and come in all forms and shapes. Parents must not trust ANYONE due merely to their position. Trust comes from relationship, not position and it must take time to establish.
 
Much of what has been forced on Catholic school children in the name of “protection” have been programs that sexualize the young and put too great a burden on children to be responsible to “protect” themselves. All this is happening in many diocese across the nation while parents are told they cannot “opt out” their children, leaving parents the least authority over their children in teaching matters of morality: a role that Holy Mother Church has always said belongs primarily to parents.

Our bishop and episcopal advisor to the Catholic Medical Association, Bishop Vasa, has worked diligently with Catholic medical physicians and pyschiatrists to now publish a comprehensive document on the protection of children(To Protect and To Prevent). And there will be more to follow. It can be found on their website cathmed.org.

In it you will find the kind of education that we need to provide to parents so that they are better able to protect and teach their children. This is the kind of real and valuable tool that all Bishops in the country should espouse, instead of the farce lay committee dictated by Ms. Kettlecamp. Then and only then will we see our children protected.

Bishop Bruskewitz is among those who supports this effort. If your Bishop is not aware of this, please order a copy and give it to him to read. This is where our energy and that of our Bishop’s should be focused. Bishop Bruskewitz is correct in not wasting his or anyone’s time with the audit.
 
We have been denied due process,” said John Krejci, another member of CTA-Nebraska.
He seriously does not understand his faith,
 
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