With respect. Why on earth would it be detrimental to societly if as a nation decided that you wanted to spend **your **tax money collected by **your ** democratically elected government on medical care for the citizens of the coutry. Why would that be bad? I don’t understand.you misunderstand me. I am not looking for government run healthcare. I think that would be totally detrimental to our entire society.
The US government was never designed to be a Democracy, in fact, it is a stealth plutocracy. (Maybe with the notable exception of the Progressive era as ) European governments are different and have less political corruption.With respect. Why on earth would it be detrimental to societly if as a nation decided that you wanted to spend **your **tax money collected by **your ** democratically elected government on medical care for the citizens of the coutry. Why would that be bad? I don’t understand.
I believe the term you were searching for is ‘representative democracy.’ Not plutocracy.The US government was never designed to be a Democracy, in fact, it is a stealth plutocracy.
I wouldn’t be certain of that. Given that we caught a few in bed with Saddam illegaly when the last Iraq war broke out.European governments are different and have less political corruption.
I meant what I said about plutocracy.I believe the term you were searching for is ‘representative democracy.’ Not plutocracy.
I wouldn’t be certain of that. Given that we caught a few in bed with Saddam illegaly when the last Iraq war broke out.
I suggest there is plenty of corruption there as well.
I suspected it was just you trying to channel Soros.I meant what I said about plutocracy.
I don’t know when you knew he was of this disposition but I do know that today, too many women are not dicerning when picking a man to marry and even less discerning when picking a man to have sex with. There are many problems that underlie the health care problem in this country. Throwing money at them and offering what may seem to be the quick fix is not the answer. There is a reason why Jesus said, “the poor will always be with you.” There are many layers of interpretation of that one line.The circumstances of no help from the father of my children are this. He was convicted of child molestation, and we can get no support from anyone in a jail cell.
“Seven years ago, the World Health Organization made the first major effort to rank the health systems of 191 nations. France and Italy took the top two spots; the United States was a dismal 37th.”The best medical care in the world is found right here in America. Why do you think that is?
In the same New York Times Article.The best medical care in the world is found right here in America. Why do you think that is?
I think the more government involvement in anything the worse it is. There is so much waste and fraud in every program the government takes on. This is because it is not the role of government to run these social programs. The role of the federal government is to defend our shores, that is all. Many of our problems could begin to be remedied if we could roll back government involvement and get back to personal responsibility and and teaching civics and ethics in school. This will never happen though. Unfortunately the concept is too conservative and there are too many liberal minded people who would disagree and insist on the continuation and proliferation of the nanny state.Tell me something, though, if you are able to. Do you know or believe that the better medical help that goes out to the poorest nations in the world are more sufficient if they come from government organizations or charitable organizations? I know only what I have been told. But those charitable organizations seem to do so much more for the whole person when treating them than a government donation. Would you agree? I honestly don’t have an educated idea.
Say what you like about “the nanny state”.This will never happen though. Unfortunately the concept is too conservative and there are too many liberal minded people who would disagree and insist on the continuation and proliferation of the nanny state.
Using terms such as “kowboy” and "konservative is not only againt forum rules but also makes you look silly. It is hard to take one seriously when they pepper their posts with such nonsense.I think the rugged individualist kowboy konservative mentality gets in the way. The John Waynes, Ahnolds, Rambos giving the idea that Americans can solve their problems with violence. It is hard to hold hand when your hand is in a fist. Put your weapons down, for if you live by rhe sword, you will die by the sword.
It is easier to be Protestent here in the USA, because with ridiculous doctrines ike Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, OSAS saying you can go out and string up your neighbor and still go to heaven, why do you need to have a religion that requires love and patience and kindness and charity?
How on earth is this against the rules?Using terms such as “kowboy” and "konservative is not only againt forum rules but also makes you look silly. It is hard to take one seriously when they pepper their posts with such nonsense.
Read the rules. You will see.How on earth is this against the rules?
Because the government is totally inefficient in its social programs. I suggest you read my previous posts to understand.With respect. Why on earth would it be detrimental to societly if as a nation decided that you wanted to spend **your **tax money collected by **your ** democratically elected government on medical care for the citizens of the coutry. Why would that be bad? I don’t understand.
The catastrophic damage done to NO was not a hit by Katrina. The catastrophic damage was due to man made failures. Like, the people and office that were supposed to keep the pumps on so that the water could filter out of the city. And the Army Corp of Engineers who built faulty levees…knowingly…and refused to use the money allotted them from the Federal Government to build them to standard. Once again, the money went into pockets, and the levees were built with sub standard material. They tried to rebuild damaged ones with dirt that, although less expensive would easily erode and be filtered away. Luckily, this was found out and the government stepped in to make them fix the problem. It isn’t that they don’t know how to do it correct, only that they would rather pocket the money than spend the money on what it was allotted for.I hope you plan on being a “Jesuit”…with a short fuse like that. My comments about NO were fair. Regardless of its history, etc. I have nothing against NO. Granted, there are good restaurants, history, music, good people, and culture there… but it also has its problems… Like corrupt and stupid politicians, that along with the boneheads at the Corps of Engineers did not make sure the levees and all the pumps were working and in great shape. When will the people of NO and LA clean that mess up? (referring to crooked politicians and inept ones as well)
Were I you, I would be praying daily that NO be spared from another Katrina…especially considering the complete destruction of many of the lower barrier islands at the mouth of the Mississippi River that blocked water movement…and other physical features that reduced storm surge. Current reports of terrain changes in the lower Mississippi River Delta give a forecast of bad news if even a Hurricane of 3 or 4 shows up.
I truly hope that you do not get hit again. We got hit by Charley as I live right where he came ashore as a 4. Not pretty, not good, and some of our people are still trying to recover from it, though not on the scale of NO…
Read the Constitution. Read the papers of our forfathers. It was intended to be a democracy. A government for the people, of the people, by the people.The US government was never designed to be a Democracy, in fact, it is a stealth plutocracy. (Maybe with the notable exception of the Progressive era as ) European governments are different and have less political corruption.
dieoff.org/page168.htm
I think most people subconsciously know this, despite the propanganda that is taught in school to justify this plutocracy.
Of course, true democracy will never work, I just want one administered by a managerial class who cares for the interests of the less fortunate. I consider myself more of a follower of “managerial liberalism” as opposed to classical liberalism.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managerial_state
I didn’t say it was anyone else’s fault for my marrying the wrong man. I didn’t even imply that! I have taken responsibility for having chosen him. However, I did not at the time know he was going to be a child molester. What test was I supposed to give him to find out…be real!!!Jesus N Cherie,
This is going to sound harsh, but it looks like you picked a child molester to make babies with:
I don’t know when you knew he was of this disposition but I do know that today, too many women are not dicerning when picking a man to marry and even less discerning when picking a man to have sex with. There are many problems that underlie the health care problem in this country. Throwing money at them and offering what may seem to be the quick fix is not the answer. There is a reason why Jesus said, “the poor will always be with you.” There are many layers of interpretation of that one line.
I am sorry for the troubles you are having and those of others but socialized medicine (which is essentially what “universal health care” is) will not solve the problems of the world. It doesn’t work, it degrades the quality of health care for everyone. The best medical care in the world is found right here in America. Why do you think that is?
You have made a lot of sense. That was my opinion also. And unfortunatly, I believe you are right in your observation that it won’t change for the better.Jesus N Cherie,
I see from reading your next post that you are not in favor of government run health care. I mischaracterized you, sorry.
You asked:
I think the more government involvement in anything the worse it is. There is so much waste and fraud in every program the government takes on. This is because it is not the role of government to run these social programs. The role of the federal government is to defend our shores, that is all. Many of our problems could begin to be remedied if we could roll back government involvement and get back to personal responsibility and and teaching civics and ethics in school. This will never happen though. Unfortunately the concept is too conservative and there are too many liberal minded people who would disagree and insist on the continuation and proliferation of the nanny state.
You’re joking right?Of course, true democracy will never work, I just want one administered by a managerial class who cares for the interests of the less fortunate. I consider myself more of a follower of “managerial liberalism” as opposed to classical liberalism.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Managerial_state
"Theorists Samuel Francis and Paul Gottfried say this is an ongoing regime that remains in power, regardless of what political party holds a majority. Variations include therapeutic managerial state[1], welfare-warfare state[2] or polite totalitarianism.[3]
it continues later…Francis, following James Burnham, said that under this historical process, “law is replaced by administrative decree, federalism is replaced by executive autocracy, and a limited government replaced by an unlimited state.”[4] It acts in the name of abstract goals, such as equality or positive rights, and uses its claim of moral superiority, power of taxation and wealth redistribution to keep itself in power.
You are calling for an elite ruling class to “manage” the huddled masses- that is nothing more than establishing a new nobility.In this view, when the managerial regime cannot get democratic support for its policies, it resorts to sanctimony and social engineering, via programs, court decisions and regulations. This includes mass welfarism, positive rights, laws punishing “racism,” “sexism” and “homophobia,” and centralized control of public education.