I’m no fan of Calvinism but you’re basically right, there have been plenty of scoundrels in the Catholic Church throughout the centuries. As will be the case with any institution populated by humans.
interesting link, i really enjoyed it. i love learning new things. and there is a book out there called the bad popes. interesting read. however, even though we have had our share of “scoundrels” within Catholocism, this has never negated the authority given to the papacy by Christ. just as we have had “scoundrels” in the white house. it does not negate the office and power of the presidency, and the authority granted to it. Peace
One could say the same things about the Catholic church.good day reverend. maybe you can answer my question then. i asked it earlier also. by whos authority did Calvin make all these rules and regulations? its interesting that many protestants(not all) want to go by the bible only, but many of his rules and regulations are not even in the bible. also who was he subject too? was he accountable to anyone? i grew up under calvinist values. lots of silly rules, that did nothing to bring a person closer to their creator. thank you in advance peace
No, because, unlike the pretended Reformers, the Catholic Church has real authority.
ditto.
LOL…actually you are not getting an answer because your question was not logically sound (academically). Another Catholic effectively answered you by pointing out the absurdity of your question.i see im probably not going to get an answer from the good reverend north… ahh well. probably because there is no good answer. come to think of it. by what authority, do any of these denominations, apart from the one Christ set up, come up with their extrabiblical moral codes? ie women cannot wear jeans, women cannot cut their hair, women cannot wear make up… etc etc etc. oh, and i dont know if a very well known bible institute, has changed its rules, but at one time a man could not have a beard. even thought the founder sure had a big one. and how bout all those rules about how one should dress eh? youd think Jesus was a preppy? lol! peace
Maybe this priest foresaw what “romance novels” were to become.
you could very well be right mark. never could dance myself. and nowadays its not even dancing anymore. just bumping and grinding. at least here in the states.lol! peace
ahh good reverend. not all of us are as learned as yourself. why would i approach something academically when im not even college educated? its a simple question really. and if you cannot answer it, feel free to admit it. its really not absurd to ask this type of question. so i will be happy to break it down to a real simple question. by whos authority did john calvin make all these rules? it comes down to either God or Man. so who reverend? God or man? peaceLOL…actually you are not getting an answer because your question was not logically sound (academically). Another Catholic effectively answered you by pointing out the absurdity of your question.
This is not about beating a drum for or against Jean C.
Peace
oh and it was a self admitted lapsed Catholic who answered me, followed by a very good response from a practicing oneahh good reverend. not all of us are as learned as yourself. why would i approach something academically when im not even college educated? its a simple question really. and if you cannot answer it, feel free to admit it. its really not absurd to ask this type of question. so i will be happy to break it down to a real simple question. by whos authority did john calvin make all these rules? it comes down to either God or Man. so who reverend? God or man? peace
peaceOne could–but if you take the time to find out the reasons behind the rules…it makes all the difference. And it has brought me closer God!
Actualy I’ve tried to do that with some (not all) of the rules, and it’s a frustrating process for a critical thinker. The problem is that much Church teaching is inherently declarative, not explanatory, and intensely self-referential. The “reasons” for a lot of the rules ultimately come down to “because the Church says so”. That’s not necessarily bad if one is already Catholic and thus accepts the doctrine of the Church’s infallibility, but for an “outsider” seeking of objective evidence, it’s not enough.
hi teddc. i will pray for you. have you been able to talk to a priest about this. i think theres alot with religion in general that is frustrating for critical thinkers such as yourself. i respect that. have you ever explored the more mystical aspects of Catholcism, and sought answers that way? the rosary, stations of the cross etc. great for meditation, as well as devotion. peace to you and yours