Can a Homosexual become a Heterosexual?

[speakttruth]

The problem is I’ve fallen madly in love with a guy, it’s the Kobayashi Maru of relationships, that’s why I’ve been so desperate to figure out how to break the scenario

Dakota, You have an emotional dependency to this person. Your hormones are kicking in and you are confusing love with physical attraction. Oxitoxians like a happy drug that we produce when we first meet someone that we are attracted to, can blind us to the reality of what love is. My son’s first encounter made him feel like he was in love and was on a high for three months and then when it was over, he said he just had a crush later on when he realize how foolish he behaved. But this man convinced him that he loved him and for the first time someone gave him the attention he always wanted. It later becomes a dead end. He tried to find someone again and it never worked out and it never will.

You are questioning things about your feelings and if you have God fill that hole that is in your life, you wouldn’t question it. Your getting temptations from the devil. He wants you to feel helpless, discouraged, depressed, self pity. Don’t fall for it. If you can’t handle being around this person, then maybe you shouldn’t be around him, until your stronger. All of us on this site are trying to encourage you and to seek the proper help. Have you sought out a person who can help you with these situations? Have you called Fr. Check’s office? If not why? I told you there is someone there that has had the same temptations you have and still does, but has turned his life to God. He didn’t figure that out till later and he is the guy that works with Courage. He is very helpful and knows exactly the way you feel.

You have a better chance to overcome these things because your so young and want to have a relationship with God. Don’t wait because you don’t want to make things worse for yourself. I have this little booklet actually, it was at a conference years ago and it is called Emotional Dependency for guys. It was from exodusyouth.net Although they are not Catholic, they are very faithful to God. It is a little booklet that talks about if you have emotional dependency and how to deal with it for SSA. It may be helpful because the person in the booklet talks somewhat like you do about the way you feel toward this guy. I just remembered this booklet this morning after reading your post. I had it three years ago. Anyway, hope this helps

God bless

 

[Dakota_Roberts]

Dakota, You have an emotional dependency to this person. Your hormones are kicking in and you are confusing love with physical attraction. Oxitoxians like a happy drug that we produce when we first meet someone that we are attracted to, can blind us to the reality of what love is. My son’s first encounter made him feel like he was in love and was on a high for three months and then when it was over, he said he just had a crush later on when he realize how foolish he behaved. But this man convinced him that he loved him and for the first time someone gave him the attention he always wanted. It later becomes a dead end. He tried to find someone again and it never worked out and it never will.

You are questioning things about your feelings and if you have God fill that hole that is in your life, you wouldn’t question it. Your getting temptations from the devil. He wants you to feel helpless, discouraged, depressed, self pity. Don’t fall for it. If you can’t handle being around this person, then maybe you shouldn’t be around him, until your stronger. All of us on this site are trying to encourage you and to seek the proper help. Have you sought out a person who can help you with these situations? Have you called Fr. Check’s office? If not why? I told you there is someone there that has had the same temptations you have and still does, but has turned his life to God. He didn’t figure that out till later and he is the guy that works with Courage. He is very helpful and knows exactly the way you feel.

You have a better chance to overcome these things because your so young and want to have a relationship with God. Don’t wait because you don’t want to make things worse for yourself. I have this little booklet actually, it was at a conference years ago and it is called Emotional Dependency for guys. It was from exodusyouth.net Although they are not Catholic, they are very faithful to God. It is a little booklet that talks about if you have emotional dependency and how to deal with it for SSA. It may be helpful because the person in the booklet talks somewhat like you do about the way you feel toward this guy. I just remembered this booklet this morning after reading your post. I had it three years ago. Anyway, hope this helps

God bless

I know it’s just infatuation, but that makes it hurt more. Oh cruel tempter that endorphin demon. When we engage in sex with someone we aren’t married to we delude each other and the endorphins interfere with our reason. I don’t want to screw him, not at all. How could I cause someone I love to mortally sin? That’s so selfish.

I’ll call Father Check’s office tonight in that narrow time slot I have between getting home from school and going to college.

PS, I’ve been praying that your son will be granted wisdom and temperance and return to you

 

[Chochy]

You are questioning things about your feelings and if you have God fill that hole that is in your life, you wouldn’t question it.

You have a better chance to overcome these things because your so young and want to have a relationship with God.

Exactly! No two things can occupy the same space at the same time. Concentrate, as much as you possibly can, on your relationship with God. You can do it!

Blessings - Chochy

 

[speakttruth]

I know it’s just infatuation, but that makes it hurt more. Oh cruel tempter that endorphin demon. When we engage in sex with someone we aren’t married to we delude each other and the endorphins interfere with our reason. I don’t want to screw him, not at all. How could I cause someone I love to mortally sin? That’s so selfish.

I’ll call Father Check’s office tonight in that narrow time slot I have between getting home from school and going to college.

PS, I’ve been praying that your son will be granted wisdom and temperance and return to you

Thanks Dakota, You have been in my prayers too. I hope you get through,you won’t be sorry. God bless you. You are so loved by God and you can overcome this. Prayers are so powerful.

 

[BornAgainCathlc]

I didn’t think it was possible until I met a man who was gay, but, through God’s grace, became heterosexual and married a woman. He fights for the protection of marriage between one man and one women.

I believe anything is possible with God.

 

[Dakota_Roberts]

I didn’t think it was possible until I met a man who was gay, but, through God’s grace, became heterosexual and married a woman. He fights for the protection of marriage between one man and one women.

I believe anything is possible with God.

Gays used to frequently marry and even have kids as a cover. Most gays could probably marry a woman and even get them pregnant, but it wont make them happy. By became heterosexual do you mean he completely stopped being attracted to men and started being attracted to women?

 

[speakttruth]

For people who are not familiar with this help from the Catholic church there is Courage on line, that helps people with Same sex attraction and has been the only apostate approved by the Pontificate. The deceased, Fr. John Harvey’s who was in charge of this apostate for 40 years wrote excellent books on SSA. His last book on the Truth about Homosexuality states that with therapy from a Catholic therapists combined with a person’s return back to their faith with determination and desire for healing, he has from his experience, said the person with Attraction and Homosexual behavior, has a 100% chance to become the heterosexual…

The point is that God first has the best influence on us to change and with that confidence in God and wanting to change with a help of a therapist that can help that person through the hurts and wounds that led them to that place, a full recovery to heterosexuality can be achieved. Not in his exact words, but to that end. You’ll have to read the book. But he said 100% can achieve full heterosexuality. I haven’t read the whole book, but it is for the person with SSA to read. Nothing is done quick in life and to have no hope that you can never change is of the devil’s doing. I believe because it requires much work, most people just give up. Being a chaste person is the most important, but we as humans were not meant to live that life and have SSA. Get the book and you would be amazed how much these specific wounds contributed to SSA. Here are some of the sections that he says has its origins to Attraction and Homosexual behavior…

Sadness and Loneliness,
Weak Masculine Identity
Fear and Mistrust
Addictive Disorder
Attempt to flee from an excessive sense of responsibility
Sexual trauma in childhood
Anger,

The Healing of Attraction and Homosexual Behavior

Understanding
Forgiveness
Catholic Spirituality
The sports wound
The Father wound, Sadness, Insecurity and Fear
The Mother wound, Sadness, Mistrust and Insecurity
The Anger wound,
Addictive disorders
Narcissism
The excessive sense of responsibility
Childhood sexual trauma

Fr. Harvey goes through each one and helps the person with SSA and the behavior of Homosexuality come to see what they need to do in order to first identify why and then to the healing after that is done. I just wanted to give a brief look at what he says. He had over 40 years of experience and was fighting an uphill battle with his own peers to tell the truth and he was always, patient, kind, loving and filled with humility. He was truly living the life of a saint. There is much hope.
I hope this helps someone who is struggling not to give up.
God bless

 

[warpspeedpetey]

Gays used to frequently marry and even have kids as a cover. Most gays could probably marry a woman and even get them pregnant,…

Having sex with both genders is bisexuality, not homosexuality.

…but it wont make them happy.

If mere sexual satisfaction made people “happy” then the whole of humanity would have found the secret to personal happiness millennium ago, or as Chesterton said, “If happiness lied along the path of least resistance, how could we have missed it?”

 

[Dakota_Roberts]

Having sex with both genders is bisexuality, not homosexuality.
If mere sexual satisfaction made people “happy” then the whole of humanity would have found the secret to personal happiness millennium ago, or as Chesterton said, “If happiness lied along the path of least resistance, how could we have missed it?”

Dictionary.com:

Homosexuality; noun: sexual desire or behavior directed toward a person or persons of one’s own sex.

If a man is only attracted to men then I don’t see how engaging in sex with a woman to maintain a cover story and pretend to be normal makes the bisexual, indeed many crack and run off because they can’t continue living the lie.

 

[warpspeedpetey]

If a man is only attracted to men then I don’t see how engaging in sex with a woman to maintain a cover story and pretend to be normal makes the bisexual, indeed many crack and run off because they can’t continue living the lie.

In committing a bisexual act, they are proving themselves to be bisexual. Not homosexual.

Dictionary.com
bisexual…
2. sexually responsive to both sexes…

 

[Dakota_Roberts]

In committing a bisexual act, they are proving themselves to be bisexual. Not homosexual.

Does a man fantasizing about having sex with a man in order to maintain an erection to have sex with his wife with qualify as sexually responsive to both sexes?

 

[ivebeenshown]

Does a man fantasizing about having sex with a man in order to maintain an erection to have sex with his wife with qualify as sexually responsive to both sexes?

The very fact that he can keep an erection with his wife at all, not to mention his willingness to have sex with his wife, demonstrates his capacity for heterosexuality – although he should probably understand that such fantasizing is a mortal sin. Perhaps if he would stop willingly fantasizing and entertaining thoughts about stuff like that, he would experience immense spiritual and sexual benefits, and maybe his desire for men would fade away altogether.

 

[warpspeedpetey]

Does a man fantasizing about having sex with a man in order to maintain an erection to have sex with his wife with qualify as sexually responsive to both sexes?

So every man who currently practices homosexuality was fantasizing about other men every single time they were with a woman? Really? The fact is that they are responding sexually to women, they are not actually homosexuals, but bisexuals by definition and as such, ones sexual partner is entirely a matter of choice for them.

 

[Eugenius]

So every man who currently practices homosexuality was fantasizing about other men every single time they were with a woman? Really? The fact is that they are responding sexually to women, they are not actually homosexuals, but bisexuals by definition and as such, ones sexual partner is entirely a matter of choice for them.

The last couple of posts describe a sex out if obligation. Is that really bisexuality?

 

[ivebeenshown]

The last couple of posts describe a sex out if obligation. Is that really bisexuality?

1.) Able to have sex with men and women
2.) Willing to have sex with both men and women

That sounds like bisexuality to me. Regardless of his ‘attraction’, he is both able and willing to have sex with a woman. Fantasizing about sexual acts is a mortal sin “for whoever has lusted has committed adultery in their heart.” So not only would the hypothetical man be committing a very grave sin by allowing himself to entertain fantasies about immoral sexual acts, but he would also be fostering that type of attraction and allowing it to thrive.

 

[warpspeedpetey]

The last couple of posts describe a sex out if obligation. Is that really bisexuality?

What ivebeenshown said. “able” and “willing”. lol. Further the implication that in all of history, every single time a gay man was intimate with a woman he was actually fantasizing about a man is ludicrous. Not only is it so irrational as to be laughable but it is entirely unprovable, a bare skin of an excuse not to admit the obvious truth. A man having sex with both men and women is exercising choice.

 

[funinsnow]

I used to be neutral on homosexuality but in 2005, I changed my view to now believing that gay/lesbian activities is comparable to crack/pot smoking by consenting adults. Gay/lesbian activities are legal, but it’s best to advise gays/lesbians to be celibate until a cure is found. Why people take part in gay/lesbian behaviours is the same as why people get heart disease. Some people take part in gay/lesbian activities because of sex abuse esp. homosexual rape in youth which messed up minds. These people are gay/lesbian behaviorally speaking though homosexuality may not be true orientation. Then there are people who take part in gay/lesbian activities because homosexuality is true orientation, maybe because of biological defect such as birth defect if it’s inborn.

With repair therapy, they could eventually discover the cure for homosexuality, be it shot, pill or surgery which changes not only behaviour but also orientation. Many talk or repair therapy failures, but repair therapy to treat drug junkyism & drunkardism often have high failure rates as many relapse. But it’s a bad idea to reject repair therapy because of the failures. Science always advances & they can come up with better ways to treat homosexuality. In order for repair therapy to have chance to work, the patient has to want it. Repair therapy wouldn’t help all who take part in gay/lesbian activities just as it won’t help all who are drug junkies-in fact it’ll fail much of the time. But some gays/lesbians will be successful in changing just as some drug junkies will be. That’s my view & finally sex changes are a sad waste which must be abolished as it’s mutilating a man to make him a fake woman or some cases viceversa. Sex changes sadly happen because science knows how to do it.

 

[Dakota_Roberts]

1.) Able to have sex with men and women
2.) Willing to have sex with both men and women

That sounds like bisexuality to me. Regardless of his ‘attraction’, he is both able and willing to have sex with a woman. Fantasizing about sexual acts is a mortal sin “for whoever has lusted has committed adultery in their heart.” So not only would the hypothetical man be committing a very grave sin by allowing himself to entertain fantasies about immoral sexual acts, but he would also be fostering that type of attraction and allowing it to thrive.

So does that make half of male prisoners bisexual?

What ivebeenshown said. “able” and “willing”. lol. Further the implication that in all of history, every single time a gay man was intimate with a woman he was actually fantasizing about a man is ludicrous. Not only is it so irrational as to be laughable but it is entirely unprovable, a bare skin of an excuse not to admit the obvious truth. A man having sex with both men and women is exercising choice.

The male genitalia doesn’t really requires anything on the mental side to become erect, stimulation is enough to cause it to start hardening, so a tongue would do it, at which point you need to generate more stimulation such as a back and forth movement in the vagina and you have orgasm. Hypothetically pretty much every man could do it with a dog if he tried…

I used to be neutral on homosexuality but in 2005, I changed my view to now believing that gay/lesbian activities is comparable to crack/pot smoking by consenting adults. Gay/lesbian activities are legal, but it’s best to advise gays/lesbians to be celibate until a cure is found. Why people take part in gay/lesbian behaviours is the same as why people get heart disease. Some people take part in gay/lesbian activities because of sex abuse esp. homosexual rape in youth which messed up minds. These people are gay/lesbian behaviorally speaking though homosexuality may not be true orientation. Then there are people who take part in gay/lesbian activities because homosexuality is true orientation, maybe because of biological defect such as birth defect if it’s inborn.

With repair therapy, they could eventually discover the cure for homosexuality, be it shot, pill or surgery which changes not only behaviour but also orientation. Many talk or repair therapy failures, but repair therapy to treat drug junkyism & drunkardism often have high failure rates as many relapse. But it’s a bad idea to reject repair therapy because of the failures. Science always advances & they can come up with better ways to treat homosexuality. In order for repair therapy to have chance to work, the patient has to want it. Repair therapy wouldn’t help all who take part in gay/lesbian activities just as it won’t help all who are drug junkies-in fact it’ll fail much of the time. But some gays/lesbians will be successful in changing just as some drug junkies will be. That’s my view & finally sex changes are a sad waste which must be abolished as it’s mutilating a man to make him a fake woman or some cases viceversa. Sex changes sadly happen because science knows how to do it.

Obviously if it is the result of being psychologically damaged due to molestation it does have a chance to be cured because then it is actually a disease and not a product of mere concupiscence.

The comparison to drug addiction and alcoholism is fallacious because homosexuality is not an addiction.

You appear to believe that that mortal will is still capable of choosing good or evil without special Divine aid, I urge you brother to repent of your Pelagian ways.

 

[funinsnow]

So does that make half of male prisoners bisexual?

Obviously if it is the result of being psychologically damaged due to molestation it does have a chance to be cured because then it is actually a disease and not a product of mere concupiscence.

The comparison to drug addiction and alcoholism is fallacious because homosexuality is not an addiction…

Dakota Roberts most male prisoners do not voluntarily engage in homosexual activities. In fact most men & women in prison have libido loss, so they lose interest in sex. Of those who take part in gay/lesbian activities, many are forced. If some1 is forced, then it’s rape as it’s against their will so it’s unjust to call some1 gay because he is forced to have homosexual sex as he is the victim. I believe gay/lesbian activities are comparable to drunkards & junkies, in that both gay/lesbian activities are bad for health just as drug use/alcoholism is. Many gays/lesbians have higher rates of drug junkyism, drunkardism, etc. THough speculative, if a woman smokes crack/pot during pregnancy, then it’s possible the baby could take part in gay/lesbian activities in adulthood. If this speculation is true, then it puts meaning into why tobacco/marijuana is sometimes called ‘fag.’ Do American Indians (who have higher alcoholism & drug addiction rates) have higher gay/lesbian activities if the woman smokes marijuana during pregnancy It would be an interesting research, esp. if it’s proven true.

 

[Dakota_Roberts]

Dakota Roberts most male prisoners do not voluntarily engage in homosexual activities. In fact most men & women in prison have libido loss, so they lose interest in sex. Of those who take part in gay/lesbian activities, many are forced. If some1 is forced, then it’s rape as it’s against their will so it’s unjust to call some1 gay because he is forced to have homosexual sex as he is the victim. I believe gay/lesbian activities are comparable to drunkards & junkies, in that both gay/lesbian activities are bad for health just as drug use/alcoholism is. Many gays/lesbians have higher rates of drug junkyism, drunkardism, etc. THough speculative, if a woman smokes crack/pot during pregnancy, then it’s possible the baby could take part in gay/lesbian activities in adulthood. If this speculation is true, then it puts meaning into why tobacco/marijuana is sometimes called ‘fag.’ Do American Indians (who have higher alcoholism & drug addiction rates) have higher gay/lesbian activities if the woman smokes marijuana during pregnancy It would be an interesting research, esp. if it’s proven true.

It’s bad enough that new people are given pamphlets on sexual harassment… Don’t drop the soap…

The terms are addiction and alcoholism (resp.)

No scientific evidence for that.

Ciggie butts are refered to as fags.