Can a non-Catholic have an incorrupt body?

[distracted]

I saw this show on Medgar Evers, Civil Rights Leader (1960s)… He was murdered and the killer got away with it for 27 years… Then his widow wanted another trial… they exhumed the body and it was, as one person said, in remarkable condition… I don’t think the body they actually showed was HIS body… cause it was a re-enactment… (Ghosts of Mississippi)… but if his body looked anything like the one shown… he was definitely incorrupt…

I feel he was a martyr because he knew his life was in danger and he stood up for justice anyway… (and his oppressed people)…

I tend to think the same thing about ML King Jr… He knew he was going to be assasinated… yet he did what needed to be done…

I know they weren’t Catholic (well, actually, i only know about King…)… but they may have been leaning toward it… (?)… and anywya… a lot of peple are saints who are not officially recognized by the Church as such… (Catholics)…

 

[palmas85]

I saw this show on Medgar Evers, Civil Rights Leader (1960s)… He was murdered and the killer got away with it for 27 years… Then his widow wanted another trial… they exhumed the body and it was, as one person said, in remarkable condition… I don’t think the body they actually showed was HIS body… cause it was a re-enactment… (Ghosts of Mississippi)… but if his body looked anything like the one shown… he was definitely incorrupt…

I feel he was a martyr because he knew his life was in danger and he stood up for justice anyway… (and his oppressed people)…

I tend to think the same thing about ML King Jr… He knew he was going to be assasinated… yet he did what needed to be done…

I know they weren’t Catholic (well, actually, i only know about King…)… but they may have been leaning toward it… (?)… and anywya… a lot of peple are saints who are not officially recognized by the Church as such… (Catholics)…

Really? Who?

 

[Feedmysheep]

There are different reasons why a body may not corrupt after death. Chemicals like we in the West use is the most obvious, but there are also environmental factors as well.

Incorruptables, speaking from a Catholic viewpoint, deal with a miraculous act of God. That is, for a saint to be declared an incorruptable, there cannot be any possible scientific reason.

Of course, I don’t think the Church recognizes incorruptibility as a miracle needed for canonization.

And yes, there are many saints who are not formally canonized by Holy Mother Church. Technically speaking, all humans in Heaven are saints. That’s why we have All Saints’ Day- to honor all saints, known AND unknown.

 

[redrosetea]

I don’t think incorruptibles are elbalmed…they are just like this by the grace of God

 

[Jenny_Z]

I don’t think the body they actually showed was HIS body… cause it was a re-enactment… (Ghosts of Mississippi)… but if his body looked anything like the one shown… he was definitely incorrupt…

It was a movie. I highly doubt it.

The west uses alot of chemicals when embalming. It wouldn’t be unheard of that the body would still be pretty intact after that amount of time.

 

[onetimeposter]

The human body is subject to decay, just like every other organism on the planet.

While people are slaughtering each other all over the world, why would God show any interest in preserving a corpse buried 6 feet under the ground?

 

[distracted]

Really? Who?

like all the “ordinary” people who don’t get into the world spotlight… housewives/mothers… laborers who live a saintly life but never make the “big splash” in society…

 

[redrosetea]

Many of our canonized saints are in- corrupt and their bodies venerated as relics

It is a sign that God does amazing wonders so people might believe

 

[distracted]

The human body is subject to decay, just like every other organism on the planet.

While people are slaughtering each other all over the world, why would God show any interest in preserving a corpse buried 6 feet under the ground?

for the same reason he does any miracle…

 

[onetimeposter]

for the same reason he does any miracle…

What? To amaze us? Keeping a corpse from rotting, just doesn’t make a lot of sense, especially when 99.9% of the time, no one would every found out.

I guarantee…take one of those miraculous corpses, stick them in a swamp and they will rot like every single other biological organism on the planet.

 

[distracted]

What? To amaze us? Keeping a corpse from rotting, just doesn’t make a lot of sense, especially when 99.9% of the time, no one would every found out.

I guarantee…take one of those miraculous corpses, stick them in a swamp and they will rot like every single other biological organism on the planet.

doesn’t make a lot of sense? Are you criticizing God??

 

[onetimeposter]

doesn’t make a lot of sense? Are you criticizing God??

I’m saying that I do not believe that God uses his divine power to stop a corpse from rotting.

There are actual problems that could use some divine intervention, let alone using divine intervention to stop the natural decomposition of a corpse.

 

[redrosetea]

Who are we to decide how God’s works are manifest?

It might bring some people to the faith

 

[distracted]

It was a movie. I highly doubt it.

The west uses alot of chemicals when embalming. It wouldn’t be unheard of that the body would still be pretty intact after that amount of time.

after 27 years??!!??

 

[onetimeposter]

Who are we to decide how God’s works are manifest?

It might bring some people to the faith

There are more effective means in converting people into believers than preventing a corpse from rotting…I know this, and I am a mere mortal and not an omniscient, omnipotent or benevolent God.

 

[Timothysis]

I’m saying that I do not believe that God uses his divine power to stop a corpse from rotting.

There are actual problems that could use some divine intervention, let alone using divine intervention to stop the natural decomposition of a corpse.

Really? Exactly what year did you lose the election against God for the Supreme Head of Universe? With such insight I’m surprised that the Divine Maker didn’t retain you as an advisor…

 

[bpbasilphx]

St. John Maximovitch, Russian Orthodox Archbishop of San Francisco, is incorrupt.

His holy relic was removed from a tomb in the basement of the cathedral on Geary to a shrine in the upper church.

 

[belgianwaffles9]

after 27 years??!!??

You’ve obviously never seen a show on egyptian mummies on the discovery chanel After thousands of years, lots of them still look pretty good.

What? To amaze us? Keeping a corpse from rotting, just doesn’t make a lot of sense, especially when 99.9% of the time, no one would every found out.

I guarantee…take one of those miraculous corpses, stick them in a swamp and they will rot like every single other biological organism on the planet.

Oh, well i guess you know all about God and everything he does. You should write a book, or make a movie, that way all of us stupid, ignorant, believing people could just learn from your infinite and all-knowing wisdom.

In seriousness, don’t expect a warm welcome here if your goal is to deny God’s miracles. Who are you to tell God how to work?

 

[redrosetea]

How do we know what will draw people to God?

I certainly don’t know…I can only speak for myself not the rest of the planet…

 

[Feedmysheep]

What? To amaze us? Keeping a corpse from rotting, just doesn’t make a lot of sense, especially when 99.9% of the time, no one would every found out.

I guarantee…take one of those miraculous corpses, stick them in a swamp and they will rot like every single other biological organism on the planet.

If you go listen to podcasts, “The Saint Cast” has a really good episode on incorruptables, if you’re really interested in learning about them (even the ones who had been buried in dank, swampy conditions), that would be a good place to start.

But as to the “why” part- vis a vis human suffering, what sort of miracles SHOULD God limit Himself to, in your opinion? What kind of divine intervention wouldn’t be frivolous to you?

I can assure you that no one will ever find out the miraculous ways God has worked in my life- but that doesn’t make it any less astounding.

I don’t think the “if a miracle happens in the woods, and no one is around to see it, does it count as miraculous” argument is very sound…