Can a protestant tell me what this is from and what its talking about

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So did he. 😃
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Surley you are not suggesting that one person you came into contact with defines for ever what Calvinists beleive?
No, he claimed that he accurately represented Reformed theology. I was just shocked to hear that there are some reformed Christians who believed that repentance from sin was not necessary.
What I am telling is the historic beleif of Calvinist I do not care per se what this other person is saying.
I don’t believe I suggested you should!
If you still don’t beleive me I will provide references if you want? But it is unfair to judge a whole bag of apples on by one bad one, surely you can see how unfair and uncharatable that is? I would encourage my fellow protatstants to also understand Catholicism as it understands itself before we use bad straw man type arguments.
Oh, don’t worry about that! I already had made quite a few judgments before I met him. 😃
 
So did he. 😃

No, he claimed that he accurately represented Reformed theology. I was just shocked to hear that there are some reformed Christians who believed that repentance from sin was not necessary.

I don’t believe I suggested you should!

Oh, don’t worry about that! I already had made quite a few judgments before I met him. 😃
Ah fair enough. Well I hope that I at least provided the historical orthodox Reformed view on this matter.
 
I guess even some Protestants are ignorant of the many different Protestant beliefs. I am a former member of the Church of Christ. Notice the language I’ve just used. We rejected the worldly creation of ā€œdenominationsā€ because those are man made. We believed we were members of the Lord’s church that he established. Catholics were among the earliest apostates. The Church of Christ teaches that works are part of our salvation - drawn from ā€œfaith without works is deadā€. If we fail to do works we would lose our salvation. Therefore we also had the idea that one can be saved and then fall away from God - clearly scriptural. Further, we believe that the bible clearly sets aside the Lord’s day on the first day of the week since the bible clearly states that they met on the first day of the week, breaking bread. Because of this we know that the Lord’s Supper is celebrated EVERY Sunday, no exceptions. It’s eery now to see the similarity of our Church of Christ worship service in comparison to the real Church of Christ worship service, also know as the Catholic Church mass or divine liturgy. And another subject that truly bothers me is divorce. The only occasion one can divorce is rare without the possibility of losing one’s soul. Violence, infedelity are among them. But even more strict is the rules for remarriage. A man may get remarriage only if his first wife has died or committed irreconcilable adultry. Even then reconciliation is first encouraged. The spouse that cheated is doomed to live single the rest of their life, lest they lose their soul.

Now I stated these things to show you the major differences between what you describe as ā€œProtestantā€ and what I describe as Protestant. Protestant is not a religion, it is an action of protesting against the Church by those that hold onto the fact that Jesus Christ is Lord and died for our sins so that we might live. The rest is where it gets blurred.

The sola fide argument does not defend your Baptist belief and that is why I never adopted my families particular Protestant faith, Southern Baptist. When I met my wife I thought I had found the one true Church Christ had founded and that I was the luckiest man alive. It wasn’t until after many years figuring things out that I realized that there were much deeper problems at stake because I’ve seen so many divisions within Protestant Churches.

All sins are forgiven. it’s just, as an example, you can have a 99% sale and unless you spend you money you will not profit from the sale. That’s why we believe in Baptism as necessary for salvation. I held that view all my life and when I hear other Protestants reject it I have to ask how could they even claim to know the bible then? It doesn’t fit the model set out by the bible. Scripture teaches that for example there are sins that are not deadly sins but need purification. But in order to be covered by the blood of the lamb we must participate in Christ’s death through our baptism and ongoing conversion.

If we fall into sin, away from God, and this too is scriptural and part of my previous faith, we must go to God and repent of our sins. But no where does the bible tell us to go only directly to Him. That is why scripture contains the example of the disciples of Christ sent out with only the cloak on their backs and to heal and forgive sins. Scripture also tells very clearly when he gave the disciples the authority to bind and loose sins.

If you are truly a bible Christian, then you should be able to recall these scriptures I’ve mentioned and have some explanation of why it doesn’t apply. I can, but now after studying history I realize the error of those previous beliefs of mine. I still heavily rely upon scripture for my faith, but I now understand the sacred scripture and the historical fact that Catholicism is the original Christian faith. I nearly fall out of my chair now when others try to disprove this with their shallow knowledge. Even though I used to try to address each issue one at a time, the recipient never cares until they are ready to accept truth in their own time. So, now I’ve stopped proselytizing and when I became Catholic realized just how foolish I had been in attempting to proselytize from my own beliefs rather than God’s belief or rather truth.
Hello Pblo. I didn’t see this post until today . My parents converted from Southern Baptist to Church of Christ when they were in their 60’s and happily spent the rest of their lives in that church. I also have a brother and a sister who are members of the Church of Christ, so I know what you have said about them is 100% correct. If you will notice, I referred to Protestants and Baptists. In no way was I trying to include the Church of Christ among the Protestants. I simply left them out of the picture.

Have you read Christ in His Fullness: A Protestant Minister Discovers the Fullness of Christ in the Catholic Church? It is written by Bruce Sullivan, a former Church of Christ Minister who converted from Southern Baptist while at Auburn University. He then trained at Sunset International Bible Institute and eventually found himself as a Church of Christ minister in Kentucky. His conversion to Catholicism came about slowly after he read Catholicism and Fundamentalism by Karl Keating.
 
Hi Pblo

Great post. I married a devout Baptist women when we both were only 20 years of age. She agreed to raise our kids in the CC, but we shared faiths. Later in life, as we both independently studied the history of Christianity (readings from many different biased sources, view various lectures, etc.), we began to discern the same patterns you noted.

The Reformation was a catalyst started by Luther, but expanded significantly by others that did not just wish for a ā€œreformed religionā€, but in many cases, a ā€œreformed secular positionā€ that rebelled against the feudel way of life. The Ana-Baptists would be considered anarchists in today’s world.

So…if one takes the time to quietly study and ponder (it took us about six years) one will be hard pressed no to perceived the validity of the ā€œfirst apostateā€ teachings.

Surprisingly, my wife, with no proding at all on my part and after 35 years married to me, decided on her own to enter into RCIA and on Easter join the CC. I say surprisingly, because she gave me no advance notice…until she was ready after studying the history of Chrisitanity herself.

That’s why when I post herein, it is with a rather broadbased background of study and rather firm belief that the universal Church is much closer in its communion than many will admit. I am verfy careful to separate emotional postulating from the core of Christ’s intentions for us all

Thanks again for the great insight
bruce
 
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