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Can any common person, like you and I, consecrate the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ?
 
Only a duly ordained priest, or bishop - who has the fullness of Holy Orders - can validly confect the Holy Eucharist.
 
zoe_otero said:
Can any common person, like you and I, consecrate the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ?
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Well I don’t like to think of myself as ‘common’😃 but I am not an ordained priest. Therefore I cannot consecrate the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ at Mass.

Question --haven’t they brought this up in your RCIA class yet?
 
Jesus gave that authority only to the Apostles at the Last Supper, commanding them to “Do this in remembrance of Me.” The remembrance part of this, in Jewish culture, is not simply remembering as we in 2016 think it is. Rather, it means to actually enter into what is being remembered. Jesus’ command to the Apostles is recorded in Matthew 26, Mark 14, Luke 22 and Saint Paul also mentions it specifically in 1 Corinthians 11. The Apostles, to spread the Church, both taught others and passed that authority on to the leaders of early Christian communities in other cities.

This has continued in an unbroken line since that first “Last Supper.” It is part of the Divine authority which Jesus gave to the Apostles, and which also includes the power to forgive sins. It is not part of the ‘royal priesthood’ to which all believers belong. This power to consecrate the Eucharist, in those who had it at the time of the Protestant Reformation, lasted in the reformers only until that generation died out. Those who never left the Catholic or Orthodox Churches retained that authority and passed it on to this day.
 
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Can any common person, like you and I, consecrate the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ?
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No. This was settled by the Twelfth Ecumenical Council, in its Confession of Faith, which reads in part:

“His body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the forms of bread and wine, the bread and wine having been changed in substance, by God’s power, into his body and blood, so that in order to achieve this mystery of unity we receive from God what he received from us. Nobody can effect this sacrament except a priest who has been properly ordained according to the church’s keys, which Jesus Christ himself gave to the apostles and their successors.” source
 
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Can any common person, like you and I, consecrate the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ?
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Only a validly ordained priest can consecrate the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ.
 
po18guy said:
Jesus gave that authority only to the Apostles at the Last Supper, commanding them to “Do this in remembrance of Me.” The remembrance part of this, in Jewish culture, is not simply remembering as we in 2016 think it is. Rather, it means to actually enter into what is being remembered. Jesus’ command to the Apostles is recorded in Matthew 26, Mark 14, Luke 22 and Saint Paul also mentions it specifically in 1 Corinthians 11. The Apostles, to spread the Church, both taught others and passed that authority on to the leaders of early Christian communities in other cities.

This has continued in an unbroken line since that first “Last Supper.” It is part of the Divine authority which Jesus gave to the Apostles, and which also includes the power to forgive sins. It is not part of the ‘royal priesthood’ to which all believers belong. This power to consecrate the Eucharist, in those who had it at the time of the Protestant Reformation, lasted in the reformers only until that generation died out. Those who never left the Catholic or Orthodox Churches retained that authority and passed it on to this day.
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Excellent reply.
 
no. however, I bet a day comes where “for the sake of ecumenism” some pope tries to declare that some protestants may have “just as consecrated a host as catholics”

would not shock me.
 
benjamindt said:
no. however, I bet a day comes where “for the sake of ecumenism” some pope tries to declare that some protestants may have “just as consecrated a host as catholics”

would not shock me.
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Oh please. No way. Never going to happen. :rolleyes:

No Pope has the authority to do such.
Christ promised He would never abandon His church on earth.
We do well to remember that.
 
pianistclare said:
Oh please. No way. Never going to happen. :rolleyes:

No Pope has the authority to do such.
Christ promised He would never abandon His church on earth.
We do well to remember that.
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i know. i didn’t mean the church would i was meaning more like a pope might make those comments in a speech or homily or something. i was being absurd b/c i’ve been so frustrated lately and it is confusing to me what i’m seeing/hearing and i’m letting my confusion turn to malice or anger or whatever.

I know God will never let His church fail. I don’t know what that means or entails as far as what specifically will be protected, but I trust God.
 
benjamindt said:
i know. i didn’t mean the church would i was meaning more like a pope might make those comments in a speech or homily or something. i was being absurd b/c i’ve been so frustrated lately and it is confusing to me what i’m seeing/hearing and i’m letting my confusion turn to malice or anger or whatever.

I know God will never let His church fail. I don’t know what that means or entails as far as what specifically will be protected, but I trust God.
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You need to trust Pope Francis as well. He has not said or done one thing to cause alarm.

He’s bring an attitude of mercy to the people.
He’s bringing people together.
He’s modeling love.
In short, he’s doing his job.
And it’s our job to listen.
Peace, friend.
 
pianistclare said:
You need to trust Pope Francis as well. He has not said or done one thing to cause alarm.

He’s bring an attitude of mercy to the people.
He’s bringing people together.
He’s modeling love.
In short, he’s doing his job.
And it’s our job to listen.
Peace, friend.
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