Can Catholics be Democrats?

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JoshuaIsLord said:
The only problem with that is that the Jews enumerate them the same way Protestants do.
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No, they do not. The Talmud’s first commandment is not actually a commandment, but the proclaimation, “I am the Lord your God.” Then they combine “no other gods” with “no graven images”, as in the Catholic numbering, and coveting stuff and coveting another’s wife, as in the Protestant numbering.

It is a third numbering system.
 
They still combine our 9th and 10th to make their 10th which is consistent with Protestant 10th.
 
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But I do not see the objection. Is it purely because that is a Protestant or actually what is said?

Currently it seems like the first and not the latter?
 
MichaelP3 said:
I appreciate your honesty! Thank You.
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But I personally do not adhere to that type of prejudice. What I do prejudice about is that they generally do not begin or end their pray with “In the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit” or at least some recognition of our Trinitarian God.
 
I generally do not mind the numbering system.

I just find it very interesting how the Jewish second commandment got attached to the first.
 
pnewton said:
No, they do not. The Talmud’s first commandment is not actually a commandment, but the proclaimation, “I am the Lord your God.” Then they combine “no other gods” with “no graven images”, as in the Catholic numbering, and coveting stuff and coveting another’s wife, as in the Protestant numbering.

It is a third numbering system.
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The Jews would disagree with you.
But most people involved in the debate seem to have missed the fact that these three religions divide up the commandments in different ways!

Judaism, unlike Catholicism and Protestantism, considers “I am the L-rd, your G-d” to be the first "commandment."

Catholicism, unlike Judaism and Protestantism, considers coveting property to be separate from coveting a spouse.

Protestantism, unlike Judaism and Catholicism, considers the prohibition against idolatry to be separate > from the prohibition against worshipping other gods.

No two religions agree on a single list. So whose list should we post?
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http://www.jewfaq.org/10.htm#Controversy
 
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These may seem like trivial differences to some, but they are serious issues to those of us who take these words seriously. When a government agency chooses one version over another, it implicitly chooses one religion over another, something that the First Amendment prohibits. This is the heart of the controversy.

And that is what Roy Moore did. He implicitly if not explicitly declared “Protestantism” the “State Religion”

http://www.jewfaq.org/10.htm#Controversy
 
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they still combine our 9 and 10 into their 10th.


Tenth Commandment (Exodus 20:14)
You shall not covet your neighbor’s house, nor his wife, his man-servant, his maid-servant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.
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http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-ten-commandments
The Ten Commandments are the first ten of the 613 commandments given by God to the Jewish people. They form the foundation of Jewish ethics, behavior and responsibility. These commandments are mentioned in order twice in the Torah - once each in the Book of Exodus and the Book of Deuteronomy.
10) Thou shalt not covet anything that belongs to thy neighbor.
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It’s… almost as if… there’s a separation between church and state? Crazy notion, I know.
 
josh987654321 said:
Yes, but we cannot call ourselves Catholic and vote ‘for’ whatever we like.
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Yes we can. We are Catholic by virtue of our baptism. Now, we can be in a state of sin; we can be excommunicated for very grave offenses. We can be a heretic (see previous). We can be just plain wrong on any number of issues.

But we are still Catholic if we were baptized. No matter how wrong we are.
 
Raxus said:
“Laws don’t completely stop theft, so let’s just give up on anti-theft laws.”
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That’s a very good point. I wish some here would keep it in mind when it comes to sensible gun regulation.
 
I suspect that people haven’t “thrown” their money at them. The probably had to go through an imperfect yet formal process to be on benefits.
 
What are you trying to bait me with here? Why would I say otherwise for Islam?
 
the democrats are attacking the little sisters of the poor again.

how do you all justify this stuff
California Attorney General Xavier Becerra and Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro have each filed legal challenges to force the Little Sisters of the Poor and other religious organizations that object to abortifacients to finance them in their worker healthcare plans.
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You link two Catholic Church writings. That just proves my point that The Church is still standing behind that awful document rather than repudiating it.

And Pius IX did have Spain in the front of his mind when talking about church and state, but he did not write “Spain.” He broad-brushed it to imply “every state” and if you scan his other writings, I think it’s clear that he would think it should apply to every state. He was the pope who gave us Vatican I, which he controlled the outcome of with an iron hand. Through Vatican I, Pius IX declared the doctrine of Papal Infallibility, which a lot of Catholics don’t realize is less than 200 years old. That pope liked POWER.
 
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