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adawgj
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I’d go for Pell. At this point I just go with whether they served in the armed forces and have been to college.
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ishii
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This is a good question. What do you do when both candidates are pro-choice? Do you move on to other issues? And ignore the abortion issue? For example, if you had two candidates running for Congress one Democrat one Republican and both were pro-choice or pro-abortion, which one would you vote for - the candidate who will put Nancy pelosi in the speakers chair ? She is one of the most pro-abortion politicians in the country. Or do you vote for the candidate whose election would give power to the party which is pro-life? Even if they themselves are not pro-life. To me the answers obvious you go with the candidate that belongs to the pro-life party as opposed to the pro-abortion party. This dilemma is used by liberal Democrat Catholics to justify voting for a pro abortion candidate.
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ishii
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You’re making a leap in logic aren’t you? Why does the position that one state should not pay for the education of people in another state mean that people in a certain county should not pay for the education of people in a different county within a state? Just because someone is not for federal funding of education does not mean that they’re necessarily against state funding of education.
Ishii.
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freeRadical
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Do you know how much the federal government spends on eduction, specifically primary education, and do you know how much of that money goes toward the poorest schools?
It doesn’t take a lot of money to educate people, it takes a component school system with component teachers. You could double federal and state expenditure on primary education and it would probably have a very negligible effect.
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Rau
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The State are “united”, but in limited ways! Ideally, taxes would be distributed widely to meet the needs of all Americans, to help the most disadvantaged, whatever State they happen to reside in. The disparity between rich and poor is so huge in the US, though that is due to many more factors than State aligned taxes.
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ringil
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Because removing Federal and State tax dollars would further the gap between the schools in well heeled suburbs and in the inner city.
Property taxes bring more money in communities where more folks own homes and pay higher property taxes.
The gap which is already immense between the eel off and poor communities would grow.
Where I live the public schools are great- some of the best in the state= I send my kid to Catholic school but anyway- fifteen minutes away int he city we have some of the worst schools in the state- absolutely terrible graduation rates, poor facilities, etc. . . . It’s really sad.
It is my opinion that local taxes be evenly distributed throughout all communities because why should a child in the suburbs be entitled to a finer school just because his parents and neighbors have more money than his peer living in a poor rural or inner city community.
But folks wont stand for that.
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MJE
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The NEA & Democrats successfully oppose legislation that gives poor parents the option to enroll their children in good quality schools. One of the 1st things Obama did as President is cancel $funding for a very successful and popular charter school in DC.
(most students were minorities and poor.)
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Dawnia
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Explain this too me. How are funds determined for school funding where you are?
Here, schools are funded based on the number of students, not on the location of the school. Even with this, there is some disparity in schools, because of donations by parents and alums. But, all schools have the same base starting point.
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RACJ
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Who in his or her right mind would want to send a dollar more to the orchards of failure and violence which are the inner city schools? We can blame our good friends at the ACLU for turning our once proud schools into cesspools. No longer can dicipline be enforced against kids who disrupt others from learning. In fact, in many cases, their parents get a STIPEND after their young thug is evaluated, and placed into some medically-approved category.
These inner-city schools, along with many other virtual holding centers should be dissolved, and a real education system should be started from scratch. I wish that bleeding hearts such as Ringil would spend a few days in a failing school, and then explain to us how the pathologies would be solved with more money.
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SuperLuigi
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A liberal comment without a counterargument.
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SuperLuigi
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Plus, one has to consider they will lie just to get into office.
That has worked wonders in the USA.
Thank you North Dakota, Missouri, Indiana and Wisconsin for falling for ridiculous campaign notions. Hope these states are happy with their 2012 Senate selections.
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stinkcat_14
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Of course that is not unique to democrat politiicians.
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RACJ
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There is no moral equivalence between the party which supports abortion-on-demand, forcing opponents of death to pay for them, and the party whose platform opposes killing of innocents. There is no splitting the baby. Rob :dts:
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stinkcat_14
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The only equivalence that claimed for both parties is that both parties have politicians that will lie to get elected. I never claimed anything else. Neither one has a monopoly on dishonesty. Democrats being bad does not equal republicans being virtuous.
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Crossbones
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More social workers.Who in his or her right mind would want to send a dollar more to the orchards of failure and violence which are the inner city schools? We can blame our good friends at the ACLU for turning our once proud schools into cesspools. No longer can dicipline be enforced against kids who disrupt others from learning. In fact, in many cases, their parents get a STIPEND after their young thug is evaluated, and placed into some medically-approved category.
These inner-city schools, along with many other virtual holding centers should be dissolved, and a real education system should be started from scratch. I wish that bleeding hearts such as Ringil would spend a few days in a failing school, and then explain to us how the pathologies would be solved with more money.
More classroom aides.
Smaller class sizes.
Better training for teachers to better manage children with disabilities.
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ringil
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Hi Rob,Who in his or her right mind would want to send a dollar more to the orchards of failure and violence which are the inner city schools? We can blame our good friends at the ACLU for turning our once proud schools into cesspools. No longer can dicipline be enforced against kids who disrupt others from learning. In fact, in many cases, their parents get a STIPEND after their young thug is evaluated, and placed into some medically-approved category.
These inner-city schools, along with many other virtual holding centers should be dissolved, and a real education system should be started from scratch. I wish that bleeding hearts such as Ringil would spend a few days in a failing school, and then explain to us how the pathologies would be solved with more money.
I am a Social Worker and spend my career working with those from places you might call “cesspools”. You might call some of their children “thugs”.
I call them brothers and sisters in Christ.
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fnr
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This thread includes many discussions that illustrate how American Catholics have ceded control of the culture to the decisions of electoral politics.
The undue emphasis of many Catholics on both left and right on electoral (mostly partisan) politics as the essential means by which we interact with the world around us is just bad theology.
In Matthew 28, the resurrected Christ – who is king – said that ALL (not some) power in heaven and on earth has been given to him. His next statement was not, “go therefore and get the government to act Christian by seizing power – militarily or through elections.” It was, “Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.”
In Mark 10, when James and John were debating over which of them would get to sit at Jesus’ right hand, our Lord said to them, "'You know that those who are recognized as rulers over the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones make their authority over them felt. But it shall not be so among you. Rather, whoever wishes to be great among you will be your servant; whoever wishes to be first among you will be the slave of all. For the Son of Man did not come to be served but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
Paul, in Romans 13, urges respect and obedience to rulers. In 1 Thessalonians 5, Paul says, ‘When people are saying, “Peace and security,” then sudden disaster comes upon them, like labor pains upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.’
Christian political theology cannot and must not be reduced to electoral politics. That being said, voting and political activism can be a way to forward the Kingdom of God. But to associate the Church with a single political party is pretty close to idolatry.
I think Pope Francis was talking about this very issue, the capture of Catholics by political ambitions when he made the following quote in his America magazine article:
“We must not focus on occupying the spaces where power is exercised, but rather on starting long-run historical processes. We must initiate processes rather than occupy spaces. God manifests himself in time and is present in the processes of history. This gives priority to actions that give birth to new historical dynamics. And it requires patience, waiting.”
The undue emphasis of many Catholics on both left and right on electoral (mostly partisan) politics as the essential means by which we interact with the world around us is just bad theology.
In Matthew 28, the resurrected Christ – who is king – said that ALL (not some) power in heaven and on earth has been given to him. His next statement was not, “go therefore and get the government to act Christian by seizing power – militarily or through elections.” It was, “Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.”
In Mark 10, when James and John were debating over which of them would get to sit at Jesus’ right hand, our Lord said to them, "'You know that those who are recognized as rulers over the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones make their authority over them felt. But it shall not be so among you. Rather, whoever wishes to be great among you will be your servant; whoever wishes to be first among you will be the slave of all. For the Son of Man did not come to be served but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
Paul, in Romans 13, urges respect and obedience to rulers. In 1 Thessalonians 5, Paul says, ‘When people are saying, “Peace and security,” then sudden disaster comes upon them, like labor pains upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.’
Christian political theology cannot and must not be reduced to electoral politics. That being said, voting and political activism can be a way to forward the Kingdom of God. But to associate the Church with a single political party is pretty close to idolatry.
I think Pope Francis was talking about this very issue, the capture of Catholics by political ambitions when he made the following quote in his America magazine article:
“We must not focus on occupying the spaces where power is exercised, but rather on starting long-run historical processes. We must initiate processes rather than occupy spaces. God manifests himself in time and is present in the processes of history. This gives priority to actions that give birth to new historical dynamics. And it requires patience, waiting.”
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