Can Catholics Vote Democrat?

[Dawnia]

So it is okay to vote for a pro-life Democrat?

Voting is far more complicated than some make it out to be. It’s one giant complex puzzle with shifting pieces. I see no use in being tied to any one party. Better to pick ideals and choose the candidates who will carry those ideas forward. And don’t wait until all you have to chose from is the lesser of two evils. Get involved early and help shape who the candidates will be.

We don’t have to accept that the Dems (or the Repubs) are a lost cause. We can do something to change that.

 

[Dawnia]

yes, but for decades I’ve been trying to find one at the national or state level but haven’t.

Well, there used to be some, but many of the “pro-life” Dems put their party above their ideals and got the boot. After that, the Dems took a hard left. Rather a shame too.

 

[Personanongrata]

54% of Catholics voted for Obama. Those Catholics put him in office.

Without “those Catholics”, we would have had Sarah Palin being a heartbeat away from the Presidency or even worse Romney!!! We all dodged a bullet thanks to “those Catholics”.

 

[SMGS127]

Without “those Catholics”, we would have had Sarah Palin being a heartbeat away from the Presidency or even worse Romney!!! We all dodged a bullet thanks to “those Catholics”.

If Republicans ran someone capable of the job, they’d actually have a chance of winning. Sometimes I wonder how people expect voters to vote for someone they’re deathly scared of giving power to. Romney or Palin would’ve completely ruined our country. If only McCain had picked Kay Bailey instead!

 

[freeRadical]

If Republicans ran someone capable of the job, they’d actually have a chance of winning. Sometimes I wonder how people expect voters to vote for someone they’re deathly scared of giving power to. Romney or Palin would’ve completely ruined our country. If only McCain had picked Kay Bailey instead!

How would Romney have completely ruined our country? It seems Obama is doing a good job of that. I can’t imagine Romney causing more damage than Obama.

It least Romney would’ve have driven all the businesses out of the country.

 

[estesbob]

If Republicans ran someone capable of the job, they’d actually have a chance of winning. Sometimes I wonder how people expect voters to vote for someone they’re deathly scared of giving power to. Romney or Palin would’ve completely ruined our country. If only McCain had picked Kay Bailey instead!

Can you show us any quotes from any member of the magestrium or any church document that states one’s dislike of a political party allows them to vote for a pro abortion candidates?

 

[Path_Finder]

CNN, the electorate wishes they had elected Romney, 53% to 44%.

politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/07/27/cnn-poll-romney-tops-obama-but-loses-to-clinton/

 

[CrossofChrist]

My question is: why would you? I honestly want to know something good Democrats have done for our country these last 6ish years. Anyone, please help me out here.

CrossofChrist:

I just genuinely want to know what good Democrats have done in any aspect of public life.

…

 

[estesbob]

Without “those Catholics”, we would have had Sarah Palin being a heartbeat away from the Presidency or even worse Romney!!! We all dodged a bullet thanks to “those Catholics”.

And where does the Church state dislike for one candidate allows one to vote for a candidate who supports unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand, homosexual marriage and forcing nuns to pay for contraception?

 

[Mulligan2]

Without “those Catholics”, we would have had Sarah Palin being a heartbeat away from the Presidency or even worse Romney!!! We all dodged a bullet thanks to “those Catholics”.

So true.

Thank God for “those Catholics”.

 

[estesbob]

[SIGN][/SIGN]We have now entered the inevitable stage of the thread where Democrat voters people even attempt to support their views with Church teaching. All they do caricature the Republican party as being evil personified and pat themselves on the back for ignoring the Church and doing the “right” thing

 

[SMGS127]

Can you show us any quotes from any member of the magestrium or any church document that states one’s dislike of a political party allows them to vote for a pro abortion candidates?

No one has said that. In 2012, both Party candidates were pro-abortion, so the abortion issue was off the table anyway.

Besides, issues of human life exist beyond that of abortion, although they certainly include abortion. Electing someone so incompetent they would likely get us attacked (Palin) would lead to a travesty of American deaths. We would’ve drastically cut our foreign aid in order to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy with either person, leading to deaths from starvation overseas. And Mitt Romney would’ve done absolutely nothing about abortion, yet cut drastically into our health care law, putting people back into a position where medical bills can bankrupt at the drop of the hat with favorable laws towards insurance companies.

It is hard to rationalize voting for either person over Obama. Either way, the Republican Party needs to actually nominate a pro-life candidate before people can criticize Catholics for voting Democrat. If the choices are two pro-abortion candidates, there’s no real way to avoid moral evil.

 

[Path_Finder]

No one has said that. In 2012, both Party candidates were pro-abortion, so the abortion issue was off the table anyway.

Besides, issues of human life exist beyond that of abortion, although they certainly include abortion. Electing someone so incompetent they would likely get us attacked (Palin) would lead to a travesty of American deaths. We would’ve drastically cut our foreign aid in order to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy with either person, leading to deaths from starvation overseas. And Mitt Romney would’ve done absolutely nothing about abortion, yet cut drastically into our health care law, putting people back into a position where medical bills can bankrupt at the drop of the hat with favorable laws towards insurance companies.

It is hard to rationalize voting for either person over Obama. Either way, the Republican Party needs to actually nominate a pro-life candidate before people can criticize Catholics for voting Democrat. If the choices are two pro-abortion candidates, there’s no real way to avoid moral evil.

I’ll take the word of numerous pro-life organizations as opposed to yours. They supported Romney, Priests for Life may have as well.

 

[estesbob]

No one has said that. In 2012, both Party candidates were pro-abortion, so the abortion issue was off the table anyway.

Besides, issues of human life exist beyond that of abortion, although they certainly include abortion. Electing someone so incompetent they would likely get us attacked (Palin) would lead to a travesty of American deaths. We would’ve drastically cut our foreign aid in order to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy with either p

erson, leading to deaths from starvation overseas. And Mitt Romney would’ve done absolutely nothing about abortion, yet cut drastically into our health care law, putting people back into a position where medical bills can bankrupt at the drop of the hat with favorable laws towards insurance companies.

It is hard to rationalize voting for either person over Obama. Either way, the Republican Party needs to actually nominate a pro-life candidate before people can criticize Catholics for voting Democrat. If the choices are two pro-abortion candidates, there’s no real way to avoid moral evil.

Thank you for expressing your opinion.If you could show us Church teaching to back up your opinion it would be helpful. You might also review the thread and wee the quotes from various members of the magestrium about how it is permissible to suport a canidate who supports abortion only. in limited circumstances over one who supports abortion on demand.The idea that the abortion issue was off the table is specious.and had no support whatsoever in Church teaching

 

[Path_Finder]

No one has said that. In 2012, both Party candidates were pro-abortion, so the abortion issue was off the table anyway.

Besides, issues of human life exist beyond that of abortion, although they certainly include abortion. Electing someone so incompetent they would likely get us attacked (Palin) would lead to a travesty of American deaths. We would’ve drastically cut our foreign aid in order to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy with either person, leading to deaths from starvation overseas. And Mitt Romney would’ve done absolutely nothing about abortion, yet cut drastically into our health care law, putting people back into a position where medical bills can bankrupt at the drop of the hat with favorable laws towards insurance companies.

It is hard to rationalize voting for either person over Obama. Either way, the Republican Party needs to actually nominate a pro-life candidate before people can criticize Catholics for voting Democrat. If the choices are two pro-abortion candidates, there’s no real way to avoid moral evil.

According to your logic, we might as well say Democrats are responsible for the deaths of all those children who have died trying to come up through Mexico, that’s a travesty and that is the responsibility of those who encouraged lax security of our borders.

 

[bcarson]

I may be wrong but didn’t Romney say he would de-fund Planned Parenthood resulting in howls of protest about his war on women?

 

[_Abyssinia]

No one has said that. In 2012, both Party candidates were pro-abortion, so the abortion issue was off the table anyway.

Besides, issues of human life exist beyond that of abortion, although they certainly include abortion. Electing someone so incompetent they would likely get us attacked (Palin) would lead to a travesty of American deaths. We would’ve drastically cut our foreign aid in order to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy with either person, leading to deaths from starvation overseas. And Mitt Romney would’ve done absolutely nothing about abortion, yet cut drastically into our health care law, putting people back into a position where medical bills can bankrupt at the drop of the hat with favorable laws towards insurance companies.

It is hard to rationalize voting for either person over Obama. Either way, the Republican Party needs to actually nominate a pro-life candidate before people can criticize Catholics for voting Democrat. If the choices are two pro-abortion candidates, there’s no real way to avoid moral evil.

Mitt Romney:

I am pro-life and believe that abortion should be limited to only instances of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother.

nationalreview.com/corner/269984/my-pro-life-pledge-mitt-romney

Now it can be debated where you can call him pro-life when he does not oppose all abortion being illegal in law, but there is more in that article regarding a pledge on abortion related issues. As governor he did a number of things which give some credibility that he would of also done things to protect life if would have become a president.

 

[_Abyssinia]

54% of Catholics voted for Obama. Those Catholics put him in office.

Majority of Catholics who voted who were regular Church goers voted for Mitt Romney:

catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=16173

 

[SMGS127]

I’ll take the word of numerous pro-life organizations as opposed to yours. They supported Romney, Priests for Life may have as well.

I’ll take the word of Mitt Romney over any political group:
Mitt Romney:

With regards to my use with regards to protecting a woman’s right to choose. And I have been very clear on that. I will preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose. And I am devoted and dedicated to honoring my word in that regard.

…

My position has been consistent throughout my political career, and it goes back to the days of 1970. There was a woman who was running for political office–US Senate. She took a very bold and courageous stand in 1970, and that was in a conservative state. That was that a woman should have the right to make her own choices to whether or not to have an abortion. Her name was Lenore Romney; she was my mom. Even though she lost, she established a record of courage in that regard. She had very strong personal beliefs about what decision she would make for herself and for her family, if offered to make that choice. But she also made it clear that she thought a woman should have her own right to choose, and believed in the separation of church and state. I have held that view consistently.

(Emphasis mine)

Does that sound like a pro-life crusader to you?

 

[Path_Finder]

I’ll take the word of Mitt Romney over any political group:

(Emphasis mine)

Does that sound like a pro-life crusader to you?

I may have voted for Dukakis in 1990 but if so, that’s the only politician I’ve ever voted for who may have been a “pro-choicer”. I think when people question Romney’s background, we should see the pro-life credentials of those who are critical. I admit I possibly erred with Dukakis but I think that was largely not an issue as it is today anyway.