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Milasol
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After 56 million babies deaths I turned into a one issue voter.
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Milasol
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I was against the war, but if you are in it, then do it RESPONSIBLY.
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Path_Finder
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If you want to ignore black genocide as called that by black pro-lifers and the slaughter of innocents, be my guest. If you feel like name-calling people “one-issue” voters is the way, so be it as a reflection on how much people respect life, I’d think we were talking about what state has water rights. Much progress has been made in state after state. Good for the pro-lifers and those who have helped in the legislative arena. If you want to knock their accomplishments, I will extoll those accomplishments as being Christian.
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SuperLuigi
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Would anyone object if I say WE don’t?
Because the difference between the American right and left is that when the right goes off the path, they are called out, whereas the left tends to make more excuses and circle the wagons to defend big government at any cost.
Those who support the GOP recognize the situation quite well, thanks.
Ah, yes! More general accusations with no proof or examples! The calling card of the young American left!
:ehh:
More than one issue is being discussed, and true conservatives almost always are never one-issue voters.
I’ve only seen that in Catholics who cling to “help the poor” or some financial incentive (unions) who vote against, well, the rest of all their principles.
And then people whine when the government starts pushing the Church around like “how could this happen, golly gee, I sures didn’t expect that!”
As though it really would’ve made any difference for them at the ballot box or something.
The implication behind this comment is flawed. Conservative voters don’t need to convince themselves (ie line up one-dimensional excuses) to feel better about themselves. They understand basic principles based on fundamental truths. There is no more solid ground than that. :yup:
Also, conservatives are skeptical of the GOP. Has anyone besides me seen the polling in the last three years? It’s just awful. The left needs to remember that the next time a TEA PARTY person runs in a primary, but of course, they can’t stand it even if they laugh in their sleeves at GOP division.
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SuperLuigi
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I think one has to be all in to be totally
in the eyes of the left.I suspect that some of our liberal Catholic brothers and sisters get the “ehhh, well, you know…he/she is CATHOLIC (bleh!) which is really backwards and all…but, ehhh…he/she votes DEMOCRATIC…so…meh…I guess he/she is OKAY.”
There are some Catholics who are soooo eager to please that! :tsktsk:
It’s not worth it, trust me. :yup:
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Milasol
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I wish those on the left did the same thing. Instead they vote blindly because the candidate has a D next to his/her name. Don’t they realize that their party has turned into some hardcore inhumane conglomerate of disastrous agendas? The democratic party only stands for financial special interest groups these days. Not any issue at all. Not any value at all.
Their platform has been slander and deception for a long time now.
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Crossbones
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Well, now we’re entering la-la land. So you despise President GW Bush, but you’re on my case because I am pointing out the issues with President GW Bush.
That makes sense.
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Milasol
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lolI think one has to be all in to be totally
I suspect that some of our liberal Catholic brothers and sisters get the “ehhh, well, you know…he/she is CATHOLIC (bleh!) which is really backwards and all…but, ehhh…he/she votes DEMOCRATIC…so…meh…I guess he/she is OKAY.”
There are some Catholics who are soooo eager to please that! :tsktsk:
It’s not worth it, trust me. :yup:
I believe you
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Milasol
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I dislike Bush because he brought us an Obama.
I dislike him, however because of the left’s incredible pro-abortion support, financially and in its fomentation I voted for him.
Oh and trust me I didn’t like Bush not because of the things you thought he did wrong.
And if it makes you feel better, I despise Obama too. He is a monster. Only a monster would deny wounded babies healthcare and let them die a slow death. And then he wants us to believe he cares for healthcare for all… what a joke!!!
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Crossbones
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So, you didn’t dislike President Bush because of the ‘worst decision the US ever made’, you dislike because ‘he brought us an Obama’. Spell that one out for me. How exactly did President Bush bring us ‘an Obama’.
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Milasol
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Because he didn’t stand up to the encroachment of the left. He appeased them.
And yes I would vote for him if it was him and Obama. Because the worst decision of going to Iraq pales in comparison to the human sacrifice perpetuated by the democrats in the form of abortion.
Let me repeat, **Obama voted 3 times to let wounded babies die a slow death. **
56 million and counting
And if it wasn’t for republicans abortion would have no restrictions. We would even have partial birth abortion in this country. And I’m almost sure that democrats, if not put on check, would have legalized infanticide by now.
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Path_Finder
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I am not a big fan of Bush or the intervention in Iraq. How ironic that the pro-life movement has been around since 1972 but somehow, in order to blunt a “pro-life” vote, George Bush was brought up even if the pro-life movement has been around for 42 years and the pro-life movement was denigrated as much as it has been in the past say, with a rogue demented person shooting a doctor for instance.
Make no mistake about it, abortion would be illegal in many states the way things are going and Eric Holder and the Justice Department and Corporate Abortion is basically fighting grass-roots laws.
So, I believe those who have brought up Bush largely lack a grasp of the issues truly involved here.
Sure, Presidents reflect the party, still, Clinton was involved in the bombing of Serbia. Though Bosnia looks like it was heavily beaten down, a lot of that really isn’t that clear to begin with as well and that was definitely an action one could trace down to Clinton and Blair.
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Milasol
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True.
And I wish you hadn’t brought up the bombing of Serbia. That pains me to this day. Unbelievable that Clinton/Albright did that. Unreal!
Kosovo is Serbia.
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ishii
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If you don’t understand the point then you haven’t been reading the thread very carefully. So many have been justifying their votes for abortion supporting Democrats by pointing out what they call the “evil” of the Republican party platform. So I think maybe estesbob is asking which part of the platform is evil - and opposed to Church teaching.
How does pointing out that the Republican platform is not necessarily opposed to Church teaching turn into a “requirement that one vote Republican” ? You strike me as a bit defensive: I get that you are not a fan of the Republican party, but really, let’s not muddy the issues. The liberals muddy the waters enough as it is - they don’t need your help.
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Path_Finder
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You have great posts.
And I wasn’t for the intervention in Iraq; it happened. But I do admit it’s a complex situation. On the surface, I did not care for the invasion but it might merit more study. As said, we had sanctions on them and the Israelis of course, at one point took out a nuclear reactor in Iraq I believe, so obviously, they were wary.
Not that we should be doing the bidding of Israel or for that matter, Saudi Arabia.
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Crossbones
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Right. How exactly did he appease them?
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Milasol
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With all fiscal policies…
Oh and try not to deviate from the fact that I specifically stated that I voted for him only because the democratic party is really responsible for the support the abortion industry has.
The democratic party is the ENGINE of the abortion industry. They support it financially and even foment it.
So I voted for the lesser of two evils if you will. A thing you leftist should do but prefer to overlook 56 million deaths and counting.
PS. Let me repeat. **I will vote for the party that doesn’t put candidates that vote repeatedly to let wounded babies die a slow death. **
That is bestial. Nothing more evil than that.
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Crossbones
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Ok, which fiscal policies?
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Milasol
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Oh I’m not falling for your little patronizing game here…
Now let me ask you a question, how does it feel to have voted for someone who consciously voted to deny any help to wounded babies and let them die a slow death?
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Milasol
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And what don’t you understand that I vote for the party that does not nominate candidates who voted repeatedly to let wounded babies die a slow death?
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