By resolving the situation, I mean to act or not to act, to choose X or Y.It’s completely related to the discussion. It seems like your only possible for reason for trying to hammer on this point. What do you mean by “to resolve situations?”
To create or not to create.This is what I mean by making an anthropomorphism. What is there for God to resolve?
The existence of options requires decision (to create or not create). All options are potential in mind of God and one of option is actual when the decision is made.There is no potential in God, but all options are on the table for him. For there to be potential in the intellect over possible action there must be doubt between two or more possibilities such that each exists potentially in the intellect. But God never had doubts between two or more possibilities. He never had to deliberate. He has always willed what he wills.
It requires a will (to create or not to create). There is no need for entertaining both options.The existence of options requires decision (to create or not create). All options are potential in mind of God and one of option is actual when the decision is made.
But there never was such a situation within God where the two were in doubt even though the two were within his power. You create a “situation” in need of resolving when there was none. God is not a super powerful human mind. You are taking things that are necessary in human operation and applying them to God when there is no need to.By resolving the situation, I mean to act or not to act, to choose X or Y.
Options are potential in the intellect otherwise there was no requirement for decision.It requires a will (to create or not to create). There is no need for entertaining both options.
All options are potential in that they can be or not be. There was never potential in the intellect one way or the other.
There is no option if there is no doubt.But there never was such a situation within God where the two were in doubt even though the two were within his power.
Can you please stop using the word decision? The word itself implies doubts in the intellect and movement in the will. There is no such movement in God. It’s bad, misleading terminology. God does not make decisions. Speak of God’s Will. Speak of God’s Intellect. And Act. And Goodness. And Power.Options are potential in the intellect otherwise there was no requirement for decision.
That is just wrong and anthropomorphic.There is no option if there is no doubt.
How about God’s will? Does that sounds well?Can you please stop using the word decision? The word itself implies doubts in the intellect and movement in the will. There is no such movement in God. It’s bad, misleading terminology. God does not make decisions. Speak of God’s Will. Speak of God’s Intellect. And Act. And Goodness. And Power.
That is right and quite general. You obviously chose X instead of Y if you know that you want X. So how there could be a room for decision if there is no choice?That is just wrong and anthropomorphic.
There was choice. There were just no doubts about the choice. There was no entertaining the two as potentials in the intellect before making one actual. And again, speak of “will.”That is right and quite general. You obviously chose X instead of Y if you know that you want X. So how there could be a room for decision if there is no choice?
See some definition of decide. Certainly God can decide.God is pure actuality. Option is potential (until decision is made). Hence God cannot decide because there is no potentiality in him.
Again, absence of doubt is equal to absence of choice. There is no choice if you know what you want. I don’t understand why you hesitate to accept that God can have doubt only before decision.There was choice. There were just no doubts about the choice.
Then why God should decide if there is no potentiality in His intellect?There was no entertaining the two as potentials in the intellect before making one actual. And again, speak of “will.”
You have doubt if you have choice. That leaves room for will.“How could there be room for a will if there is no choice?”
For one, of course there can be a will if there is no choice. But as stated, there was choice.
You cannot resolve the problem of doubt this way.Another try. X and Y are both within God’s power, but God from all eternity has willed X even though it is not necessary for X to be willed.
I agree with the bold part. But how God could will if there is no choice?Love loves one thing, the beloved, and moves toward it (or operates in conjunction with it), which is what God “does”.
There is no choice of options, as if there were not yet a definitively loved thing.
Love is the first (principle) movement of the Will.
In God, “Love” is the name of the person we know as “The Holy Spirit”,
Anything you see from God was never “chosen”, as if there was a time when it was not loved. It was eternally loved in the knowing of God, and so, at the right time it was created without choice but with Love and by the One whose name is Love. And now it is both loved in the knowing of God and with material and sensible being for us also to love, since it is in material and sensible being that we come to know.
Choice is not about love, but about means to an end, means to getting to what you do love. Choice is about the utility of options in helping you reach the beloved. But God never has to “reach” nor “move toward” what he loves, so he never chooses options to get there. God sees simply, in one, the whole of all he knows in knowing himself, and loves it (himself) and operates in seeing the fulfillment of all he knows as he knows, the whole big picture of his knowing, in all its parts, in Love.
See some definition of decide. Certainly God can decide.
decide verb (used with object), decided, deciding.
- *]to solve or conclude (a question, controversy, or struggle) by giving victory to one side:
The judge decided the case in favor of the plaintiff.
*]to determine or settle (something in dispute or doubt):
to decide an argument.
*]to bring (a person) to a decision; persuade or convince:
The new evidence decided him.
verb (used without object), decided, deciding.
*]to settle something in dispute or doubt:
The judge decided in favor of the plaintiff.
*]to make a judgment or determine a preference; come to a conclusion.
God knows only ONE thing, and One thing only. The Whole Big Picture of Himself, which includes his knowing of what is not himself. And he loves it. One simple image of all. And His Will is in Satisfaction of his Love.I agree with the bold part. But how God could will if there is no choice?
I don’t understand you. God at least created our universe. That is an action. Do you believe that God does things?God knows only ONE thing, and One thing only. The Whole Big Picture of Himself, which includes his knowing of what is not himself. And he loves it. One simple image of all. And His Will is in Satisfaction of his Love.
He is enjoying himself, that is what the Will does when you have what you want; you enjoy it : the “Satisfied Will” is delighting and enjoying.
Our very being is God enjoying himself, and inspiring us to know we may also enjoy him and each other the same way, one with each other.
Of course he does things, but never by deciding; he moves in delight, which is timeless and not a means to an end; he moves in the movement of operation in joy, not in the movement of becoming complete.I don’t understand you. God at least created our universe. That is an action. Do you believe that God does things?