Can God Fly?

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Tomdstone said:
God is laughing and God is crying? It is difficult to take you seriously. Anyway, laughing and crying are a form of movement which is not possible for an immutable Being.
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Jesus is THE JUDGE.

So, you all be careful out there.

[Be nice to His Mother.]
 
Yeah, so someone saw Jesus walking on the water and declared, “He cannot swim”.
 
Milestone said:
I know God can do all things that don’t imply a logical contradiction, but can God fly? At first, one would probably think, “Why, of course he can! There isn’t anything contradictory about God flying.” But is there? How would God be able to move from one location in the air to another if he is already present everywhere? I might just be being stupid here, but help would be very much appreciated.
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There are many things an omnimax God cannot do. He cannot ever learn anything new since He already knew it because He is omniscient. He certainly cannot fly, because He cannot even move. Movement requires leaving point A and arriving at point B. An omnipresent God can never leave point A and is already at point B, so cannot ‘arrive’ there.

Movement also implies change – it is a change in position. An unchanging God cannot move. Being unchanging is an extremely limiting property; you cannot even change what you are thinking about or change what you are doing…

rossum
 
Tomdstone said:
Mathematicians talk about infinity all the time. Infinite series, Infinite sequences, Sequences diverging to infinity, cardinality of infinite sets, the continuum hypothesis, Compare the infinity of the real numbers with the infinity of the natural numbers. Beth numbers such as Beth null, Beth one, Beth two and Beth omega. Etc.
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Did you mean Aleph numbers there?

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inocente said:
And a DC-3, as I think it’s still the only cargo plane which can do STOL in South American mountains.

Not an issue here - youtube.com/watch?v=D-wxnID2q4A

(One of the comments is Zen koan-ish - “Pools are just portals to worlds where we can fly but not breathe”)
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LOL. And in the SEALS, you are introduced to not being able to breathe.

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Well, in short, the things that are outside God’s omnipotence are those which would not make him perfect. For example, God can’t commit a sin, because that would be an imperfection, but it doesn’t mean that he isn’t omnipotent.
 
The Scriptures support the fact
that God can fly:
“There is none like the God of
Jeshurun, who flies in the heavens
in your help, and in His excellency
on the sky. The eternal God is
your refuge and underneath are
the everlasting Arms” Deut. 33":26-27
 
GLam8833 said:
The Scriptures support the fact
that God can fly:
“There is none like the God of
Jeshurun, who flies in the heavens
in your help, and in His excellency
on the sky. The eternal God is
your refuge and underneath are
the everlasting Arms” Deut. 33":26-27
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And God is said to ride in or through the heavens in Psalm 68:33 and looks down from heaven upon the earth in Deuteronomy 26:15 and Psalm 102:19; Psalm 14: 2; and Lamentations 3:50. So the dwelling place is regarded as identical with the physical heavens in the Old Testament in those quotes.

Catholic Encyclopedia has:

That God is not subject to spatial limitations follows from His infinite simplicity; and that He is truly present in every place or thing — that He is omnipresent or ubiquitous — follows from the fact that He is the cause and ground of all reality.

Toner, P. (1909). The Nature and Attributes of God. In The Catholic Encyclopedia. New York: Robert Appleton Company. newadvent.org/cathen/06612a.htm
 
rossum said:
Did you mean Aleph numbers there?

rossum
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Aleph numbers are slightly different from Beth numbers but both Aleph numbers and Beth numbers indicate that humans have studied infinity and comprehend the different types of infinity contrary to an implication of a previous post.
 
Vico said:
And God is said to ride in or through the heavens in Psalm 68:33 and looks down from heaven upon the earth in Deuteronomy 26:15 and Psalm 102:19; Psalm 14: 2; and Lamentations 3:50. So the dwelling place is regarded as identical with the physical heavens in the Old Testament in those quotes.

Catholic Encyclopedia has:

That God is not subject to spatial limitations follows from His infinite simplicity; and that He is truly present in every place or thing — that He is omnipresent or ubiquitous — follows from the fact that He is the cause and ground of all reality.

Toner, P. (1909). The Nature and Attributes of God. In The Catholic Encyclopedia. New York: Robert Appleton Company. newadvent.org/cathen/06612a.htm
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If God is everywhere present does that mean that He is already present in the Eucharistic Host before the consecration?
 
GLam8833 said:
The Scriptures support the fact
that God can fly:
“There is none like the God of
Jeshurun, who flies in the heavens
in your help, and in His excellency
on the sky. The eternal God is
your refuge and underneath are
the everlasting Arms” Deut. 33":26-27
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The Nicene creed says that God came down from heaven and became man, but does not mention flying.
 
Tomdstone said:
If God is everywhere present does that mean that He is already present in the Eucharistic Host before the consecration?
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Yes in the sense of “the cause and ground of all reality.” as stated in the Catholic Encylopedia.
 
Vico said:
Yes in the sense of “the cause and ground of all reality.” as stated in the Catholic Encylopedia.
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You say yes? God is present in the Host before the Consecration? Since God is present in the Host before the Consecration, does that mean that a Baptist who receives Communion in a Baptist church, does receive God?
 
Tomdstone said:
You say yes? God is present in the Host before the Consecration? Since God is present in the Host before the Consecration, does that mean that a Baptist who receives Communion in a Baptist church, does receive God?
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God is omnipresent in the unconsecrated bread and wine in the sense of “the cause and ground of all reality,” as stated, not as the resurrected body, blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus Christ, that is the Eucharist under the appearance of the bread and wine.
 
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