Can he be the pastor?

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Michael68 said:
Sure thing Jon! Just google “become a pastor” and the answer will be crystal clear.
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Well, there you are. It would have been a simple matter of being specific, instead of making a general statement that is false for many Christian communions that are loosely referred to as protestant.

I Googled “internet ordination”, and the first 3 or 4 hits were for the Universal Life Church Monastary, which is not Christian at all, so they don’t count.

Another one near the top was www.open-ministry.org. It too says it will “ordain” anyone, so it is not Christian either.

Most of these online ordinations have to do with wedding chapels, not communions.

Jon
 
JonNC said:
Well, there you are. It would have been a simple matter of being specific, instead of making a general statement that is false for many Christian communions that are loosely referred to as protestant.

Jon
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My statement was not false
 
Michael68 said:
My statement was not false
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It is precisely false for many Christian communions. In fact, it is probably false for most, for a number of reasons.
  1. Communions such as Lutherans and Anglicans, and some others, require seminary attendance, and have the laying on of hands. It is a false statement to say one can be ordained online into these communions.
  2. Some communions do not practice ordination. Many of these also require a significant amount of education, seminary, etc. It would be a false statement regarding them as well
The fact is few if any communions would accept these “ordinations” because they are not connected to the communion or church. Most of the online are for wedding chapels, and typically are not Christian, and therefore not protestant.

Jon
 
JonNC said:
It is precisely false for many Christian communions. In fact, it is probably false for most, for a number of reasons.
  1. Communions such as Lutherans and Anglicans, and some others, require seminary attendance, and have the laying on of hands. It is a false statement to say one can be ordained online into these communions.
  2. Some communions do not practice ordination. Many of these also require a significant amount of education, seminary, etc. It would be a false statement regarding them as well
The fact is few if any communions would accept these “ordinations” because they are not connected to the communion or church. Most of the online are for wedding chapels, and typically are not Christian, and therefore not protestant.

Jon
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My statement is true. These are protestant (not Catholic) websites.
 
JonNC said:
Site one please. Link to it. I linked to one that sells “ordinations”, and they are not Christian, therefore not protestant.

Jon
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Really? There are way to many which is why It is funny you are saying this is false. BTW I don’t know how to link. That google search puts it right there for you.
 
Michael68 said:
Really? There are way to many which is why It is funny you are saying this is false. BTW I don’t know how to link. That google search puts it right there for you.
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Really! Copy and paste the URL. It’s easy. Find me one connected to any communion.

Jon
 
JonNC said:
Really! Copy and paste the URL. It’s easy. Find me one connected to any communion.

Jon
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How about you quit being dishonest about this and face it. Some protestant(non Catholic) churches are offering licenses, ordination and such online.
 
Michael68 said:
How about you quit being dishonest about this and face it. Some protestant(non Catholic) churches are offering licenses, ordination and such online.
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Now you’ve changed your claim to “some Protestant churches”.
Which ones? It’s a simple question.

Jon
 
JonNC said:
Now you’ve changed your claim to “some Protestant churches”.
Which ones? It’s a simple question.

Jon
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Excuse me, when did I say all? Are you trying to deflect? Why can’t you admit this is a reality?
 
JonNC said:
Now you’ve changed your claim to “some Protestant churches”.
Which ones? It’s a simple question.

Jon
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It doesn’t matter to me which ones. The fact they do it is undeniable
 
Michael68 said:
Some protestant(non Catholic) churches are offering licenses, ordination and such online.
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A person or a community can be “non Catholic” but that does not mean that they are “Protestant”. The terms are not interchangeable.
 
There is a non-denominational church in my area where the pastor had no seminary training. He got his degree in accounting or something. He was a long time member of the local baptist church and decided to start his own church.

I’m guessing this is the exception to the rule, however. Most pastors I’ve read about are well educated.
 
Michael68 said:
It doesn’t matter to me which ones. The fact they do it is undeniable
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Which they, Michael? I’ve listed numerous communions that would not because they lay on hands. Many others don’t ordain at all, so what would be the point? All of these " they" don’t. Who knows, maybe some small or obscure group does, but I don’t know of them, and they obviously would not constitute “they” as in Protestants. And if they do, that ordination would not be valid in other communions.

Jon
 
JonNC said:
Which they, Michael? I’ve listed numerous communions that would not because they lay on hands. Many others don’t ordain at all, so what would be the point? All of these " they" don’t. Who knows, maybe some small or obscure group does, but I don’t know of them, and they obviously would not constitute “they” as in Protestants. And if they do, that ordination would not be valid in other communions.

Jon
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I am just informing ppl this business of internet licensing and ordination is a real practice. That’s all. You have gone beyond that and are trying to discredit me. You can’t. The info is out there
 
Alex_H said:
There is a non-denominational church in my area where the pastor had no seminary training. He got his degree in accounting or something. He was a long time member of the local baptist church and decided to start his own church.

I’m guessing this is the exception to the rule, however. Most pastors I’ve read about are well educated.
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It probably is all that unusual, for churches that are not connected to a communion. They generally eschew the idea of ordination, typically don’t have an seminary or other education system. Certainly they are in the minority.

Jon
 
JonNC said:
It probably is all that unusual, for churches that are not connected to a communion. They generally eschew the idea of ordination, typically don’t have an seminary or other education system. Certainly they are in the minority.

Jon
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Yet they do exist. All I was saying .
 
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