Can I go visit everything at my local Mormon Temple?

[Chris-WA]

I’ve been to Mormon church, and have been struck by the absence of worship there. There is a lot of talk of Joseph Smith and Gordon Hinckley, but the name of Jesus is scarce, even non-existent. I heard the word Christ a couple of times, and a few mentions of the Atonement. But not the sort of worship that goes on in a Christian Church, where we gather not to give testimonies of the truth of a prophet or of a book, but to worship the savior of mankind, Jesus.

I will second this observation. I have been to sacrament meeting many times over the last 15 years or so and have noticed the same thing. I’ve come to see that in sacrament meeting, Christ is not the center of worship. From listening to the talks and the hymns, the object of worship is rather the church itself. They worship their church. You will hear Christ mentioned every now and then, but most of the speaking is about Joseph Smith or the current prophet or about how wonderful it is to be a member of the church.

The Catholic mass is not about the pope or the bishops or about how great it is to have “membership.” On the contrary, from beginning to end it’s all about Jesus Christ. It’s about gathering to humble ourselves before Christ, hear His word proclaimed, and to experience His presence in the most intimate way possible. Going to sacrament meeting, on the other hand, is like going to amateur hour–everybody gets to preach to everybody. It’s more of an exercise for the individual in preparing a talk and public speaking than about worshipping Christ. The feeling I get when I listen to most of the speakers is that they’re constantly trying to convince themselves and everyone else how wonderful the church is and how great it is to be a member. There is actually very little sense of “worship” in terms of worship of God the Father and Jesus Christ. The portion of the meeting that deals with the sacrament itself is like a cheap imitation of the Eucharist. One quick prayer and then they eat the Wonderbread and drink a small plastic cup of water. There is no sense of heavenly beauty or sense of climax that this meal is anything more than symbolic of something the early Christians considered to be far more real and experiential.

It’s almost as if the early Mormon leaders couldn’t think of anything better to do for their order of worship, so they just settled on a quick remembrance of the Last Supper and then left it up to the members to give random talks on various subjects. Where’s the beauty? Where’s the sense of heaven? Where is the worship of Jesus Christ?

 

[ElizaE]

Your questions are not disrespectful at all. I respect your curiosities, and don’t blame you for wanting to know. We make covenants to God and Jesus Christ in the temple to wear the garments. They are a symbol of living a pure, chaste, worshipful life to the Savior, and we wear them day and night to remind us of that, and those covenants we make with Him in the Temple. While we are taught to respect them (not just leave them on the floor, toss them over to the clothes hamper, etc.), we wash them like normal underwear, with the whites, warm cycle. We purchase them from special stores (usually near a temple) or online, both of which require proof of membership and Temple worthiness to obtain.

Thank you for your answer. OK, now you will think I am strange, but I have more questions about these garments. Are they made of a special material? Are they “different” then most underwear? Are they tops and bottoms or both? Do women wear special bra garnments? Again not trying to be disrespectful. I cannot imagine my Church caring what I wear under my clothes, as long as it isn’t showing.

God bless

 

[thomasf]

It is a glorious plan! It is an exciting plan! It is my hope and desire that this plan is true - I believe it is. I do not want my increase to end when this life is over, and I cannot imagine a just, merciful, and loving God not willing to allow that to happen.

Do you believe, then, that one day you will increase to a state similar to God and be a god yourself?

 

[jstayii]

Well… Im not sure what you mean by separate glorified beings. One in purpose seems understandable.

I am not one to tell you what your religion believes, but Mormons believe God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are all separate beings, not one being with different identities made manifest. They believe this as made manifest at Christ’s baptism, when the Holy Ghost came down as a dove, and the voice of God the Father said, “This is My beloved Son, in Whom I am well pleased” (Matthew 3:16). They also believe this as made manifest in modern times when they believe God the Father, and Jesus Christ appeared together to Joseph Smith in response to his inquiry at the time on which of the Churches of his time were true.

Then this was said later:

“There is also the mormon doctrine on deity that places man as the same order of being as God just in a different development state (this especially problematic for many due to Satan’s original temptation in the bible) and conversely makes a God a repentant sinner who was redeemed and exalted with Jesus and Satan our literal siblings with all of us literally descending from Gods the father and his wives.”

Is this part of the answer of the Father Son Holy Ghost??? Im gonna not say anything yet, If someone doesnt mind can this be put plainly for us not in the “know”

This is a hard one to comprehend, unless you believe that life is eternal, and that even after this life you will have the opportunity to grow, rid yourself of sin, and become closer to what the Savior was when He was on the earth (and what He is). Rather than delve into a page-long explanation of our beliefs, I’ll refer to some of the source on Mormon.org, which give some good answers to your questions:

Us being Created in the image of God:

mormon.org/learn/0,8672,3667-1,00.html

Us being children of God:

mormon.org/learn/0,8672,808-1,00.html

Mormon belief on why we are here on earth:

mormon.org/learn/0,8672,1121-1,00.html

Our life before this earth (this is very unique to the Mormon religion, and something not explained much in the scriptures):

mormon.org/learn/0,8672,1294-1,00.html

I think the above teachings are what spring the criticisms that Mormons believe they are the same order as God, just a different developmental state. Again I emphasize God will always be our God, Christ our Savior - we will never be higher than what They have done for us, as They made all this possible. The great thing is, we can still increase though! We can still grow! We can still live with our families and loved ones forever after this life! This is what Mormons believe.

 

[thomasf]

“Worthy Members” are those that truly follow the teachings of Christ, and the commandments. Mormons don’t drink or smoke, take drugs, remain chaste until marriage, don’t murder, steal, lie, and do their best to live the 10 commandments. Those that remain true to their beliefs are issued “recommends” by their church leaders that allow them in. Call it incentive to live a righteous life.

Okay, question here. So only people who live this ‘chaste’ life and remain true to their beliefs are allowed into the temple? And these people are basically free from those sins you mentioned above? Or is it enough that they try to live this way? Is it okay to be a little sinful, mostly sin-less? Or is it totally free from sin?

Explain to me how Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were harmful personalities. For every quote you show me that gives some sort of evidence that they were harmful I can give you 4 or 5 showing what they were actually doing was bringing people closer to Christ, and I guarantee my quotes will come from the source.

How was what Joseph Smith doing with plural marriages bringing people closer to Christ? How about the bank, or anti-bank, he started and closed without honoring the bank notes? I’d like to understand that.

 

[thomasf]

This is what Mormons believe.

And this is why many people don’t believe Mormons are Christian. Because to be honest, that does not remotely resemble the Christian God or Holy Trinity as I know it.

 

[jstayii]

It’s almost as if the early Mormon leaders couldn’t think of anything better to do for their order of worship, so they just settled on a quick remembrance of the Last Supper and then left it up to the members to give random talks on various subjects. Where’s the beauty? Where’s the sense of heaven? Where is the worship of Jesus Christ?

I will not repeat myself on this one - I believe I’ve explained our worship of Christ, both in congregational weekly meetings, and daily temple attendance clearly enough. Also, don’t forget that the purpose of a Mormon “Sacrament Meeting” is the Sacrament. During that time everyone is quiet, thinks of the Savior. The prayer is recited from a given prayer through the scriptures by Priesthood holders, and reflects “always remembering the Savior”. The sacrament hymn is also always Christ centered. This is what the Mormon sacrament meeting is all about - the rest is just meeting together often with the Saints and reflecting with one another and sharing each others’ beliefs.

 

[jstayii]

Thank you for your answer. OK, now you will think I am strange, but I have more questions about these garments. Are they made of a special material? Are they “different” then most underwear? Are they tops and bottoms or both? Do women wear special bra garnments? Again not trying to be disrespectful. I cannot imagine my Church caring what I wear under my clothes, as long as it isn’t showing.

There are both 2 piece and one piece versions, both tops and bottoms. They are worn under the bra for the ladies (my wife says she got used to it). No “special” material about them - various different types in fact, to allow variety and personal preferences of comfort. They are also long enough to force the wearer to wear modest clothing. It’s not necessarily about the Church caring what one wears under their clothing, but rather a very private reminder to the individual of covenants made in the Temple, and reminders to keep one chaste, modest, pure, and worshipful towards the Savior.

 

[jstayii]

Do you believe, then, that one day you will increase to a state similar to God and be a god yourself?

Do I believe I will become as my Heavenly Father is, and as Christ Himself is? I sure hope! Christ will always be my Savior, and God always my Father. An eternal family means eternal increase, and we too, are part of that increase! I do not want my progression to end on this earth.

 

[jstayii]

Okay, question here. So only people who live this ‘chaste’ life and remain true to their beliefs are allowed into the temple? And these people are basically free from those sins you mentioned above? Or is it enough that they try to live this way? Is it okay to be a little sinful, mostly sin-less? Or is it totally free from sin?

How was what Joseph Smith doing with plural marriages bringing people closer to Christ? How about the bank, or anti-bank, he started and closed without honoring the bank notes? I’d like to understand that.

I’m just curious - do you truly have questions about Mormonism, or are you just trying to expose what you have learned elsewhere about our church? While I respect your questions, you seem to have something to prove with us - all of your comments have been something similar in nature. As a respectful Christian, I am not going to give into this trollish behavior. If you have respectful questions, please ask them, but don’t ask them in an accusatory tone or I will not answer them.

 

[Kitty_Chan]

I think the above teachings are what spring the criticisms that Mormons believe they are the same order as God, just a different developmental state. Again I emphasize God will always be our God, Christ our Savior - we will never be higher than what They have done for us, as They made all this possible. The great thing is, we can still increase though! We can still grow! We can still live with our families and loved ones forever after this life! This is what Mormons believe.

I checked out those links, they all seem pedestrian except for
mormon.org/learn/0,8672,1294-1,00.html the plan of salvation. I think the spirit children comes from before you were born God thought of you. But when I read the whole explaination. I dont think the plan of salvation caused me to be born or come to earth from my spirit body. Or I accepted the Heavenly Fathers plan and came to earth.

the thing is, I am the created, I can only grow through Christ. I can do nothing myself, my strength is Jesus. I dont know what Heaven will be like, if we will live with our families, I know we will recognise them. I dont worry about it however, if I trust Christ with my life, then I trust Him to make the decisions regarding eternity. Until then however I prefer not to make promises or guesses regarding that.

and still I dont see anything regarding the statement that Jesus and satan are equal. But I have a feeling that the plan of salvation somehow addresses it. But the site is not specific in areas so I cant tell.

 

[thomasf]

I’m just curious - do you truly have questions about Mormonism, or are you just trying to expose what you have learned elsewhere about our church? While I respect your questions, you seem to have something to prove with us - all of your comments have been something similar in nature. As a respectful Christian, I am not going to give into this trollish behavior. If you have respectful questions, please ask them, but don’t ask them in an accusatory tone or I will not answer them.

Can you not honestly answer them? I can answer anything about my faith because it is transparent. I cannot say the same for mormons because their members often refuse to answer the questions, and the faith is not transparent.

You say that only the chaste, who do not sin can enter the temple. Is that an absolute, or relative qualification? And if it is an absolute, that implies that mormons can be without sin. How can this be? We are all sinners, and can never be without sin on this earth. That’s what the church is for, to bring us closer to God, closer to perfection. Not to a state that is without sin, that’s impossible.

If it is a relative qualification, who decides this relative qualification? Do you have to pass a checklist? Is there some kind of ‘smell test’? Do you wear badges that turn a certain color once you pass a level of sin, so you cannot get into the temple? You see, you cannot be sure HOW chaste and without sin anyone is. So how can there be a way to qualify how much without sin someone can be? You cannot.

So to have a temple that is only accessible to those who are considered chaste and without sin, that excludes others because presumably they are not, you create a huge hypocrasy. You either claim that you’re without sin and worthy, or you have a false, un-provable, class of believer. Either way is false. That purposely divides your faith and purposely sets certain members of your faith above others and non-believers. In effect, you’ve created a special club that others should want to join in order to receive benefits of your faith, when in fact the qualifications of getting into that club are false to begin with.

Fact is, I know that it’s not a matter of qualifying to get into the temple. It’s a matter of being in the faith long enough, and that’s it. My converted friend who lived with his girlfriend before getting married, had premarital sex, continued to drink caffein and alcohol, confessed he didn’t totally believe in the religion, managed to get into the temple just by putting in his time and doing nothing else. His year was up, he got in and was able to be sealed so that his wife and mother-in-law were happy. So what you claim about being chaste and avoiding certain sins is not true.

And while the catholic church has a sacrament called confirmation that effectively ushers young people into the ‘adult’ church at a certain age, confirmation doesn’t qualify us to enjoy any more or less of the mass or get us in anywhere that someone off the street can’t walk in to.

As far as Joseph Smith goes, why not answer the question? You said that you can show that everything he did benefitted people as much as it hurt. Can you show me how those things I mentioned benefitted anyone? OTHER than himself?

And why exactly DO mormons ignore these things? Why is this something that I can discover by doing my work, but you’ll never hear about from a member of the Mormon church? Can you see how this leads one to question the lack of transparency in that faith? Especially coming from a faith that was founded by Christ himself and has existed since he founded it, and is open and transparent to anyone who asks? Good or bad, everything in the catholic faith is open to the world, nothing is hidden nor denied.

It’s not trolling. Just answer the questions, dialogue will ensue. I’m more than willing to hear your side and explanations. If there are any.

 

[jstayii]

and still I dont see anything regarding the statement that Jesus and satan are equal. But I have a feeling that the plan of salvation somehow addresses it. But the site is not specific in areas so I cant tell.

Mormons don’t believe they are equal. Satan played a part in the original plan established before this earth. He presented his plan, which was to force all to follow him, and not God. Christ’s plan was to give all glory to God, and give us agency to choose for ourselves while on this earth. He accepted that we would sin and make mistakes, but offered Himself up in sacrifice for our sins. God chose Christ’s plan, banished Satan and his followers. Mormons believe that those on the earth today were the ones that accepted Christ’s plan. We worship and honor Him, and are eternally grateful for His tender mercies and part in that plan. We will never be able to pay Him back for what He has done for us.

Yes, Mormons believe Satan was our brother, just as Christ was, but Mormons do not accept Satan’s teachings, and certainly shun his influence. He will never be able to live with us again, and we abhor his presence. Satan has no glory, is complete darkness, teaches pure evil, while Christ is our Savior, our Redeemer and Lord, and is the perfect Example on earth for us to follow. Family is central to the teachings of Mormonism, and they believe it is central to God’s plan for us here on earth.

 

[jstayii]

Can you not honestly answer them? I can answer anything about my faith because it is transparent. I cannot say the same for mormons because their members often refuse to answer the questions, and the faith is not transparent.

Yes, I can answer them, and the answers you have already researched I am willing to bet are full of half truths and lies. Do a Google search for them - there are both Mormon points of view and extreme Evangelical (non-Christian IMO), anti-Mormon views on many of the topics you mention. Perhaps in those forums you can debate your opinions - I do not come here to debate. Many of the things you ask are not important towards getting us back to God, nor important towards worshiping our Savior so I am not going to answer them (yes, I know you are just going to reply trying to show me why they are - do they really matter to Catholicism, the topic of this site?). Were you to ask them innocently, truly intending to know the answer (you mentioned you have already done your homework), and not following up with accusatory remarks as other members of this forum have respectfully done, I may be a little more happy to answer. I haven’t skirted anything else on here.

You say that only the chaste, who do not sin can enter the temple. Is that an absolute, or relative qualification? And if it is an absolute, that implies that mormons can be without sin. How can this be? We are all sinners, and can never be without sin on this earth. That’s what the church is for, to bring us closer to God, closer to perfection. Not to a state that is without sin, that’s impossible.

My answers to this question are littered, repeated over and over through this forum topic. I don’t need to repeat myself here.

 

[thomasf]

Why not answer the question? I quoted what you said and asked a specific question. I have not seen it answered in any of your other posts.

I would like to hear an honest answer to the questions. Yes, I have my preconceived notions of your faith. But if you were really able to answer the questions honestly, it might give me another view of your religion. If I intended to dispute you and rip on your religion, I would have done so without any guises. I had honest questions that I asked. My experiences with the mormon church and their members tells me what you were claiming about the temple to be wrong. If my experiences are wrong, I’d love to hear you explain differently.

Frankly, I know as much as I do about LDS because I was interested in it for a while and considered it as a religion. Then, as now, I never got answers to the hard questions I was accustomed to getting in the catholic church. Even though I decided it wasn’t the faith for me, it interests me because of my friend’s conversion. I would like to understand these things because I’d like to understand why he believes as he does, what made him convert. I am afraid of asking him because I’m afraid of getting a similar reaction and having him take offense. I’d like to know why he, or anyone, believes in this religion. I wish I could understand why, when it seems so contrary to the honesty and truth I get in the catholic church. I keep hoping that somewhere there’s something that’s got some truth or some power that appeals to them. So I ask. Yet I get no answers.

And now I’m not going to be so nice, since I don’t get answers to honest questions. For sure, this is not the first time my questions about the mormon faith have been answered this way. So your response does not suprise me. Had you addressed them perhaps I could have learned something. But as usual, mormons are not willing to talk frankly and honestly about their religion. Your answer about the temple sounds great. Yet it cannot be true, as I pointed out. So can you clarify? Or is it a matter of saying one thing, doing another? Is the answer to be given different from the reality of the practice? Because it sure seems that way.

And again with Joseph Smith. Mormons talk about how great he was and all the good things he does. Yet history tells us another. Are we not supposed to know history, and only take your word on it?

You wonder why people get hostile or accusatory? There are inconsistancies that do not stand up. Inconsistancies that a catholic will not accept, having come from a faith that has said the same thing for 2000+ years and clearly spells it out for all to see. It is more than frustrating to get non-answers and refusals to address the issues.

 

[thomasf]

Many of the things you ask are not important towards getting us back to God, nor important towards worshiping our Savior so I am not going to answer them (yes, I know you are just going to reply trying to show me why they are - do they really matter to Catholicism, the topic of this site?). .

Yes they matter to catholicism, because it is a catholic site. And the purpose is to witness to the truth of the catholic faith.

Because the catholic faith is INclusionary. All are welcome, and all should be welcome to enjoy the mass and enter our churches. We want people to come and see the beauty of what we believe. And it’s our job to show the world Jesus’ church, what he created, and why it is the truth.

To create a temple atmosphere that you have described is EXclusionary. Meaning only certain people are welcome. It is important to know WHICH people are welcome, and why. Why does your God only want certain people to know the temple? Why create an exclusive club for certain people? That implies only certain people are good enough to know him in certain areas. God does not say that. Jesus did not say “spread my word to the holiest of people, that qualify to make into the temple”. Jesus did not say “you are the rock on which I will build my church, for certain people to know”. The very idea that certain people are only allowed into a church in itself is contradictory to the word of Jesus and scripture itself!

And the very fact that you are NOT willing to explain honestly, in depth, your religion worries me that people are getting into something they do not really understand, or might mistake it for something else.

So if we are to get closer to God, as you say, we must know the motivations behind the practices in the temple. The original answer was nice, on the surface. And people wishing to think that they too should be worthy of being chaste and sin-less will respond to that. People wanting to think that they can be part of something no one else can. It helps to create a mysterious place that has the answers to being chaste and sinless. But as I showed, your answer cannot be true. So the real answer must be known. If there is deeper meaning, by all means let us know. But if there isn’t, it will appear as it does, shallow and without real depth. Nothing more than something to get into once you put your time in, once you reach a certain age.

And if you would like us to get closer to God, you must first show that we’re talking about the same God. Frankly, I don’t think we are. What I know of the mormon church, what my church tells me, is that the mormon church does not believe in the same God and Jesus as Christianity. So in fact, as catholics, we cannot get closer to your God, since it is not the same God and Jesus that we believe in.

Because to get closer to God as a catholic, I do none of these things, I do not believe in these things. I follow the sacraments and teachings in scripture. One scripture, the holy bible. I follow a God that does not resemble your God, and a Jesus different from your Jesus, and believe vastly different concepts of salvation than what you believe. IMO to get closer to what you are professing is to get further from what I believe.

 

[majick275]

Do I believe I will become as my Heavenly Father is, and as Christ Himself is? I sure hope! Christ will always be my Savior, and God always my Father. An eternal family means eternal increase, and we too, are part of that increase! I do not want my progression to end on this earth.

here is a major point of difference. You consider this “plan” to be exciting and a good thing. To me and many others it seems blasphemous and a bad thing. eternal progression requires an infinite future and an infinite past of “cycles” of people being redeemed and some being exalted and those producing children and then creating worlds for them to live in and providing saviors for them to be redeemed by and some being exalted, etc., ,etc.

This makes Jesus A savior instead of THE savior. It also makes God the Father just “one of us” who “made it”. The Holy Spirit actually is problematic in this model because he has no body (a requirement for exaltation). Jesus could not be a God until AFTER his resurrection in this model. It requires our God to have his own God, who has his own God and on and on. I would also ask how the “only begotten son” works on other worlds whose god had multiple sons? (I think Brigham Young answered this and I find HIS answer very disturbing but I am willing to entertain the possibility that he was merely speculating)

 

[jstayii]

This makes Jesus A savior instead of THE savior. It also makes God the Father just “one of us” who “made it”. The Holy Spirit actually is problematic in this model because he has no body (a requirement for exaltation). Jesus could not be a God until AFTER his resurrection in this model. It requires our God to have his own God, who has his own God and on and on. I would also ask how the “only begotten son” works on other worlds whose god had multiple sons? (I think Brigham Young answered this and I find HIS answer very disturbing but I am willing to entertain the possibility that he was merely speculating)

Mormons don’t claim to have an answer for everything. There are many things we don’t know, as most religions out there, and there are “mysteries of God” as in times all throughout the Bible. The fact of the matter is, Mormons claim to have a lot of details about God that other religions simply don’t have. It is because of these details that we get criticized, but frankly, what if they were true? I’d like to hear a better explanation about Who God is, His physical characteristics, relationship to us, etc. from any other Christian out there. I have yet to find one better, with more details, and more personable than the one I believe in.

Mormons do believe that Christ was a man on earth like us - He was still the God that created this earth however before He came, and He was the only being to live a perfect life, and lead the way with His example. He was the only being capable of atoning for our sins, because He was the only sinless being. Yes, he was not like the Father until Resurrection - however that doesn’t demean Him in any way. He was still way better than any of us, and He was still the God worshiped through all the Old Testament. He is and always has been the God of this earth, whether in man form or not.

As to the “other worlds” thing, as Mormons, we are only taught about our Gods, our Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost - I do not know if there are more Gods out there. There is nothing in the scriptures that says one way or another. I do know our God has one Fold, and one Savior Who suffered for our sins. I know of no other Savior out there - many have speculated, but I see that as pure speculation. I would think it would be scripture if it weren’t by now.

 

[jstayii]

Why not answer the question? I quoted what you said and asked a specific question. I have not seen it answered in any of your other posts.

I’ll tell you what - if you ask me your questions (you’ve had about 10 scattered throughout this forum) in list form, looking to see if I have already answered them in this forum topic already, and quoting me where I haven’t answered fully (with your additional questions), without any accusations, assumptions, or conclusions about my church, and if you ask them respectfully with sincere desire, I will answer your questions.

I have answered everyone else on this forum - most have been very respectful. If you can be respectful I will answer you as well.

 

[Kitty_Chan]

jstayii thank you for answering, I will try to keep this conversational too. btw I am not catholic just for your point of reference, I guess if you want to label me try Baptist or Pentacostal

Mormons don’t believe they are equal.ok thats clear now Satan played a part in the original plan established before this earth. He presented his plan, which was to force all to follow him, and not God. Christ’s plan was to give all glory to God, and give us agency to choose for ourselves while on this earth. He accepted that we would sin and make mistakes, but offered Himself up in sacrifice for our sins. Im with you here, little shaky about timelines perhaps, but its a good explanation.

God chose Christ’s plan, banished Satan and his followers. Hmm Christ chose Gods plan maybe, because Jesus would honor the Father, perhaps you just said this backwards? Because Father, Son, Holy Ghost. satan was created like we were and wanted to be as high or equal to who created him. I dont think, and could stand corrected, that satan was banished, I understand he “fell” he exercised his free will and choose not to follow God, then went about getting us to do the same. Later on the last judgement satan will be bound then banished from the pressense of God forever.

Mormons believe that those on the earth today were the ones that accepted Christ’s plan. We worship and honor Him, and are eternally grateful for His tender mercies and part in that plan. We will never be able to pay Him back for what He has done for us.

I wonder if it would be more accurate to say when we arrived on earth we have the choice to accept Christs plan, we couldnt have arrived on earth accepting the plan or there would be no free choice. If our spirit chose before, then our flesh would have to be separate from our spirit and they are not. If so our spirit could remain pure and go to Heaven. While all the time on earth our flesh could have done every sin it wanted to. (works from a protestant eh? see some of us get it.

Yes, Mormons believe Satan was our brother, just as Christ was, but Mormons do not accept Satan’s teachings, and certainly shun his influence. He will never be able to live with us again, and we abhor his presence. Satan has no glory, is complete darkness, teaches pure evil, while Christ is our Savior, our Redeemer and Lord, and is the perfect Example on earth for us to follow. Family is central to the teachings of Mormonism, and they believe it is central to God’s plan for us here on earth.

once again satan was created but as a angel, that doesnt make him a human brother, just a hmmm how about a cousin angel But angels and humans are different but both with free will. Dogs and cats are different but both can bite or be nice.

your correct not to accept satans teachings and shun his influence which is what we all do everyday, as satan waits like a wolf ready to devour us.

Now you are right to call Christ our redeemer and Lord. But as our Lord He created us, we cannot be His brother. We are His children, created and loved by Him. Even John the Baptist said he was unworthy to untie Jesus sandals.