Can Someone Explain Protestant Churches who have the Holy Eucharist?

[JonNC]

=perro sarnoso;9065644]They can call it whatever they want,

True Eucharist occurs only in the Catholic Church at the hands of an duly ordained priest and higher rank.

What about Orthodox, PNCC, Old Catholics? And
“at the hands of a duly ordained priest…” Really? My understanding that ordination has to be by a Bishop. Though you are right that there have been presbyter ordinations in the Catholic church in the past.

Just because a protestant religion calls it [communion] or [eucharist] doesn’t make it such.

So you disagree with Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger.

I count among the most important results of the ecumenical dialogues the insight that the issue of the eucharist cannot be narrowed to the problem of ‘validity.’ Even a theology oriented to the concept of succession, such as that which holds in the Catholic and in the Orthodox church, need not in any way deny the salvation-granting presence of the Lord in a Lutheran Lord’s Supper

And you nor any catholic should be participating of it.

And with this I agree, as it is against Catholic teaching to do so.

Jon

 

[komeeks18]

By literally, you mean bodily Christ’s resurrected body ] ?

Why do Baptists only see the post-Calvary Christ as pure spirit only ? Scripture teaches at the Rapture, Christ will be visible to all.

Baptists do not believe Christ’s body or blood is in the elements at all, physically or spiritually. What you quoted from my reply was my personal beliefs, not the Baptist Church’s beliefs. I believe Christ is there spiritually, not that Communion is just symbolic, I believe his spirit we are consuming. Like how Christ lives inside of us when we choose to live for Him. Like I said, I do not believe that it is purely symbolic like most Baptists, I believe in Christ’s spirit. Does that help?

Sending love and blessings,
Katie

 

[komeeks18]

You better read up on the beliefs of the LDS before you consider them Christan. They are not Christian. They don’t believe in the Holy Trinity. They believe in Jesus, but he is is not the Christian Jesus. They believe that their god is just god of this world and other worlds have different gods. Jesus and Satan are brothers. In addition, if you do everything right in the Mormon Church, you could become a god.

Actually, I have done quite a bit of research on the Mormon Church, and although I do not agree with many of their beliefs and doctrines, I still agree they are Christians–they worship Jesus Christ as their Savior; whether they believe he is God or not. I believe they will go to Heaven (although not how they believe it is [different kingdoms]), because they believe Jesus is the Son of God. I understand they have many controversial beliefs, but who am I to judge their beliefs when everyone interprets God’s Word differently. I do not agree that Joseph Smith and their prophets are true prophets. I do not believe there is a need for more scripture after Jesus, because we can communicate directly to Him. One of my best friends is a Mormon, and she is not some evil person who believes she is a god. I’m not defending, but I don’t think anyone should bash or judge other people’s beliefs even if you know they are not true. They worship the same God I worship, therefore I consider them brothers and sisters in Christ–no reason to hate.

 

[Robert_Burke]

I read once (in a Catholic newspaper) that the Swedish Lutheran Church has Apostolic Succession since the last Catholic bishop of Sweden consecrated the first Lutheran bishops in Sweden.

Can anyone verify that?

If they have Apostolic Succession, then it’s possible that they have the Eucharist as well (assuming that their ministers believe in transubstanation and have the requisite intent to change the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ).

 

[embien]

Then do you also believe that your Holy Eucharist is the same as the Catholic Holy Eucharist? Are there other Protestant denominations that believe the same thing?

The Anglo-Catholic part of the Church of England celebrate the Holy Mass at which transubstantiation takes place and holy communion is given to baptised Christians. All baptised Christians are welcome to receive Holy Communion, in my experience. I’ve always been made welcome there, which is the main reason I converted to Anglicanism.

 

[Luvtosew]

The Anglo-Catholic part of the Church of England celebrate the Holy Mass at which transubstantiation takes place and holy communion is given to baptised Christians. All baptised Christians are welcome to receive Holy Communion, in my experience. I’ve always been made welcome there, which is the main reason I converted to Anglicanism.

Thats wonderful. Does a person have to show proff of Baptism and are they questioned before hand to understand the importance of Holy Communion and how to receive it, in a state of grace, examining themselves first, and then to receive in reverance to the Lord.

 

[jerry_joseph]

"Truly, I say to you, if you do not eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. The one who eats my flesh and drinks my blood live with eternal life and I will raise him up on the last day…

"Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood, live in me and I in them. (John 6 : 56)

If protestants are denying the eucharism as body and blood of christ , then what is the bread that gives eternal life to them ?..

 

[embien]

Thats wonderful. Does a person have to show proff of Baptism and are they questioned before hand to understand the importance of Holy Communion and how to receive it, in a state of grace, examining themselves first, and then to receive in reverance to the Lord.

Thanks for the question. No, but it’s a matter of courtesy to inform the priest beforehand that one is Baptised and would like to receive Communion. I don’t know anyone, :shrug:Anglican or Roman Catholic who has been questioned in this way; I think it’s a matter of conscience for the individual to put themselves in the right state to receive Communion. All the Christian churches regard conscience to be of prime importance. Thanks again for this opportunity.

 

[Hat4]

This has been a very interesting thread. I’ve always felt that the importance of Baptism and the Eucharist are made very clear in the Bible. The denominations that believe in these two I’ve always felt more of a kinship with (although I feel a certain kinship with all Christians). In my eyes anyway to deny these takes you so far away from what every Christian believed for over 1,500 years that you wonder what the new churches and denominations that crop up over the next 100 years or so will look like. I really appreciate hearing from the non RC in this thread and everyone has been very charitable.

 

[7_Sorrows]

No protestant church gives valid communion. You are not to accept protestant communion either.

Episcopalians have a “holy Eucharist” but it is not holy, nor a Eucharist.

The Only churches that Rome gives valid communion, confession, etc, is the Orthodox Churches. (Other than themselves )

that’s funny, because all of the years that i was an episcopalian i certainly viewed our holy communion as holy. the words “Do this in remembrance of me” made a big impression on me. i believed those words.

 

[Luvtosew]

I don’t really understand how Episcopalians, Anglicans, or other Protestant branches are able to have Holy Communion. Can someone please explain this to me? Also, can someone direct me to a list of churches (other than the orthodox Churches in the East) that Rome allows to give Holy Communion that are not in the Latin Church or the Eastern Churches? Are there any other Protestant churches that are able to give Holy Communion or is it just Episcopalian/Anglican?

All Chrisitian Churches are allowed and should have Holy Communion- they do not need permission , its in the Bible,
the Last Supper. Rome is not over Protesstant Churches,.

All churches see Holy Communion differently, some believe in the actural physical presence, some in the spiritual presence and some in more a symbolic way.

 

[brb3]

Baptists do not believe Christ’s body or blood is in the elements at all, physically or spiritually. What you quoted from my reply was my personal beliefs, not the Baptist Church’s beliefs. I believe Christ is there spiritually, not that Communion is just symbolic, I believe his spirit we are consuming. Like how Christ lives inside of us when we choose to live for Him. Like I said, I do not believe that it is purely symbolic like most Baptists, I believe in Christ’s spirit.

Ok … so you accept the Catholic viewpoint/teaching of the REAL PRESENCE, yet only a limited presence? Only Christ’s SOUL and SPIRIT … but not his nail-pierced body or shed blood, or his resurrected eternal body/blood that the apostles witnessed, which could be touched, yet pass unrestricted thru objects / doors ?