=kdganey1991;8934285]What justification do we have for this? I’m just curious, since I was reading a CARM article about it. I’m confident Mary is our mother, after this article:
matt1618.freeyellow.com/woman.html
But what justification do we have for the saints hearing us? I’m not too sure Revelation 5:8 says enough, since it does not say THEY are HEARING our prayers as we speak them, that they can hear what is on earth?
Here is a biblical foundation for this worthy but not mandated preactice. It MUST be accepted by piety is a persoanl [and excellent] practice:thumbsup:
PRAYER
**Tob.12: 15 **“I am Raphael, one of the seven holy angels who present the prayers of the saints and enter into the presence of the glory of the Holy One."
** 2 Tim. 1: 16-18 **Paul Prays for the dead: 16 May the Lord grant mercy to the household of Onesiphorus, for he often refreshed me; he was not ashamed of my chains, but when he arrived in Rome he searched for me eagerly and found me-- 18 may the Lord grant him to find mercy from the Lord on that Day–and you well know all the service he rendered at Ephesus.”
**Passage Ephesians 6 :18 “**The prayer of a righteous man has great power as long as you persevere.” …. There is a misunderstanding between protestants and Catholics on the phrase "pray to Mary or pray to St Thomas etc. Protestants take those phrases literally as if we Catholics pray to Mary or the Saints directly and waiting for them to answer our pleas directly …
Heb. 13: 7 “Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God; consider the outcome of their life, and imitate their faith”
Rev.5: 8 “And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints; “
**2 Mac. 12: 39 –45 **“On the next day, as by that time it had become necessary, Judas and his men went to take up the bodies of the fallen and to bring them back to lie with their kinsmen in the sepulchres of their fathers. Then under the tunic of every one of the dead they found sacred tokens of the idols of Jamnia, which the law forbids the Jews to wear. And it became clear to all that this was why these men had fallen. So they all blessed the ways of the Lord, the righteous Judge, who reveals the things that are hidden; and they turned to prayer, beseeching that the sin which had been committed might be wholly blotted out. And the noble Judas exhorted the people to keep themselves free from sin, for they had seen with their own eyes what had happened because of the sin of those who had fallen. He also took up a collection, man by man, to the amount of two thousand drachmas of silver, and sent it to Jerusalem to provide for a sin offering. In doing this he acted very well and honorably, taking account of the resurrection. For if he were not expecting that those who had fallen would rise again, it would have been superfluous and foolish to pray for the dead. But if he was looking to the splendid reward that is laid up for those who fall asleep in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Therefore he made atonement for the dead, that they might be delivered from their sin.”
God Bless,
Pat
