Can you justify competitive eating?

[aspawloski4th]

If you are critical of a Canonized Saint, you are being critical of an official pronouncement of the Church. Also to be a saint does not mean that they lived free of sin. TO say he does not belong in heaven, you are making yourself God, or at the very least you are usurping the authority of the Church.

Actually, while the mechanics of how it oworks are not known to me, there is a method to petition the church for an issue like that. That is not usurping anything. I might someday look into it. But I have big fish to fry like home foreclosure, and my wife’s failing health taking up my wherewithall right now. The official church teaching of the assumption of Mary, was oficially declared in either the late 1940’s or early 1950’s and getting it declared official was a result of a petition drive which was Mainly on the Spanish paeninsula.

 

[aspawloski4th]

Whoops! St. Christopher is still a saint; he was just taken off the liturgical calendar.
catholiceducation.org/articles/religion/re0265.html
Once you are canonized it does not get revoked.

I’ll look it up when I have access to my good resouses, but an Eastern Orthodox friend of mine years ago asked why the Roman church recinded his favorite saint and I later confirmed if that was true with a long time firend of my Family Fr Charles Antekeier. I’d be shocked if he boo booed, because I have known him to be quite knowledgeable.

 

[philialeaf]

Nobody has done that. The original poster asked if these contests are justifiable. Many of us have said no, with our reasoning. You said there was nothing wrong, with nothing to back up your opinion except, well, opinion. You then set to going on a crusade labeling all who disagree with you as hypocrites because you took our condemnation of an activity as an attack on you personally, which none of it has been. If you have engaged in these activities, instead of devoting your energies to vindicating yourself, couldn’t you at the very least try to comprehend some of the points made?

Thank you, CWBetts! We’re not pointing fingers, but we don’t see the good in continuing these events but a lot of bad in it. Mental illness should be treated, not celebrated as a normal healthy lifestyle (other examples I can think of: transgender, pro-ana, promiscuity, etc…)

 

[philialeaf]

I have big fish to fry like home foreclosure, and my wife’s failing health taking up my wherewithall right now.

Prayers!

 

[CWBetts]

Canonization cannot be revoked.

catholic.com/thisrock/quickquestions/keyword/canonization

 

[aspawloski4th]

Prayers!

Thankyou very very much!

 

[PeterMuz]

Um, the church has aid nothing against eating contests, by the same logic you could ban football, demolition derbys, tractor pulling, Heck one doesn’t have to go much further with that type of illogic to say I shoul’d not have pareticipated in the Mackinac bridge walk last month, after all that energy could of better spent other activites. It’s good to think over things, but there can come a point where one overanylises something, and that is clearly what is going on here.

The church has not said anything about gluttony, or taking care of you body because it is a temple of the Holy Spirit, or wasting food when people are starving to death???

 

[PeterMuz]

If you tell me you absolutely never overeated in your life time, theres noway I can take your seriously. It’s not moral reletivism. Example the ten commandments says thou shal nat kill, guess what if someone is coming at you with a knife and you shoot them dead, you are not sinning. If you are playing softball and you hit the ball off the pitcher’s head and it kills him you are not getting arrested for murder and neither is the church condemning you despite the fact that happened during a FUN activity. If eating contests are soooo evil where is your condemnation of smoking!

Some who kills someone trying to kill them did not have any prior intention of killing the person. It was not premeditated. Eating competitions are very premeditated.

I sure hope you were really not comparing these two things. That shows a very flawed line of reasoning.

Smoking and getting drunk are a lot of fun to a lot of people. They are also both wrong.

 

[PeterMuz]

Eating contest. End. to win < to eat the most of the participants. - neutral.
I very rarely ever say this about others, but… I think some people here have too much time on thier hands. If we were debating this 30, 40 50 years ago, people with your mind set would either be ecnored or laughed out of town. Get me a time machine please!

Very few people are as stubborn as you are and would either agree to disagree. If we have lots of time on our hands, and you are still talking to us, THEN SO DO YOU!!!

 

[Jason_1977]

Maybe I’m being melodramatic to put this under “social justice”, but with over a billion people suffering from hunger can you blame me? Is it more than a little silly or wasteful to have eating contests?
To me it represents a disordered view of food, which is a gift, and the body, which is a Temple of the Holy Spirit. It also seems a scandal on others when children are looking up to the people who win these competitions. I’ve heard kids brag about knowing how to “double up” on hot dogs to “trick your stomach”. How healthy can that be?
The champions are glorified and often interviewed as though they are athletes. I’m sure there are parallels that can be drawn regarding the training, challenges, etc. but athletes (ideally) should be more concerned with their health, and with people wanting to follow in their footsteps. Last night I heard a kid interviewed who said he would die happy if it was from eating a giant 30,000 calorie burger.
Not to start yet another “is this a sin?” thread–I’ve already heard of gluttony and pride, thanks! I’d just love to hear a Catholic find some way to try to defend this! (Other than by pointing out other terrible things people sometimes do to their bodies for the sake of sports, entertainment, etc.)
Any thoughts?

when you’re in a war zone with absolutely nothing to do, it’s an excellent and fun morale booster. It’s better than roaming around the camp trying tofind a different way to do your laundry routine or going to buy a soda because it’ll kill 15 minutes of time. Excellent Morale booster at camp patriot. IN the winter it was doughnuts, and in the summer it was watermelon. It made us laugh, it made us smile, & It gave us something to cheer for, we cheered for our buddies in our units, army vs. navy, vs. coast guard…it was awesome. What I find shameful is that fast food restaurants throw away tons of food a day when they could be sending it by the truck load to shelters. If the food has a purpose, I dont see how it can be a waste. Now if the sort of thing was done every day w. the same people, etc, then it would be gluttony in my eyes, but I had a blast watching it in Kuwait & have no regrets or any misgivings about it.

 

[CWBetts]

when you’re in a war zone with absolutely nothing to do, it’s an excellent and fun morale booster. It’s better than roaming around the camp trying tofind a different way to do your laundry routine or going to buy a soda because it’ll kill 15 minutes of time. Excellent Morale booster at camp patriot. IN the winter it was doughnuts, and in the summer it was watermelon. It made us laugh, it made us smile, & It gave us something to cheer for, we cheered for our buddies in our units, army vs. navy, vs. coast guard…it was awesome. What I find shameful is that fast food restaurants throw away tons of food a day when they could be sending it by the truck load to shelters. If the food has a purpose, I dont see how it can be a waste. Now if the sort of thing was done every day w. the same people, etc, then it would be gluttony in my eyes, but I had a blast watching it in Kuwait & have no regrets or any misgivings about it.

I really don’t consider that to be “competitive eating.” Just like a an annual pie eating contest where it is seen who can eat a pie the fastest or whatever. I am talking about people who train for this kind of thing. There are people who do this for a living, which can only be seen as revolting. BTW, Keep up the good work! Ignore the media! Some of us actually do appreciate your sacrifice.

 

[centurionguard]

As with most in this thread who have expressed their collective moral propriety AGAINST such sporting endeavors which only serves to feed the disgusting immoral habits of gluttony and the human ego; I am at a loss to understand why those who favor such a sport would entertain for a moment helping the very poor in their mist.

These same kind of people who would entertain their puny minds by being a spectator to such sporting events are most likely the same who would approve of humans being feed to the lions in the Roman Coliseum or watching prisoners being flogged with cat-a-nine tails in front of a City Hall. Primitive minds entertain themselves with primitive situations.

 

[Jason_1977]

I really don’t consider that to be “competitive eating.” Just like a an annual pie eating contest where it is seen who can eat a pie the fastest or whatever. I am talking about people who train for this kind of thing. There are people who do this for a living, which can only be seen as revolting. BTW, Keep up the good work! Ignore the media! Some of us actually do appreciate your sacrifice.

yeah, the ones who train for this sort of thing actually drink TONS of liquids a day to stretch their stomachs. Watching them eat (now I love a good hot dog) tons & tons of hot dogs in seconds makes me literally gag sometimes when I see it on TV.

 

[aspawloski4th]

Very few people are as stubborn as you are and would either agree to disagree. If we have lots of time on our hands, and you are still talking to us, THEN SO DO YOU!!!

When traditionism is attacked I do get very stubborn. This was not a big deal 50 years ago therefore it shouldn’t be now. Tiny issues are being wined and sniveled about when the big ones are being let go. Jesus didn’t agree to disagree with the selfritous pharissees.

 

[athansor]

When traditionism is attacked I do get very stubborn. This was not a big deal 50 years ago therefore it shouldn’t be now. Tiny issues are being wined and sniveled about when the big ones are being let go. Jesus didn’t agree to disagree with the selfritous pharissees.

There are lots of things that were OK 50 years ago that are rightfully issues of concern now. I don’t get the mindset that if something was OK in the past, then it must be OK now.

 

[aspawloski4th]

There are lots of things that were OK 50 years ago that are rightfully issues of concern now. I don’t get the mindset that if something was OK in the past, then it must be OK now.

Sugestion. Don’t come to Grand Rapids Michigan, and stay away from my family. You would be driven insane. I have a mother that does absolutely nothing that wasnt done 50 or more years ago, so her that would be mortal sin. That mindset is very easy to understand when you see all hell braking loose societywise around you. My late motherinlaw would of driven you super nuts, she longed for the 1930s and 1940s back. To be truthfull if you and I bother get to heaven, because God designs a specific place for a specific person. You and I likely will not see eachother. My heaven will be mostly 1970s like and have hardly if anything from now. I prefer the tried and true to new ideas anyday. Eating contests being evil is a very new idea.

 

[aspawloski4th]

I really don’t consider that to be “competitive eating.” Just like a an annual pie eating contest where it is seen who can eat a pie the fastest or whatever. I am talking about people who train for this kind of thing. There are people who do this for a living, which can only be seen as revolting. BTW, Keep up the good work! Ignore the media! Some of us actually do appreciate your sacrifice.

After this post I don’t think you and I are as far apart as you may think.

 

[athansor]

Sugestion. Don’t come to Grand Rapids Michigan, and stay away from my family. You would be driven insane. I have a mother that does absolutely nothing that wasnt done 50 or more years ago, so her that would be mortal sin. That mindset is very easy to understand when you see all hell braking loose societywise around you. My late motherinlaw would of driven you super nuts, she longed for the 1930s and 1940s back. To be truthfull if you and I bother get to heaven, because God designs a specific place for a specific person. You and I likely will not see eachother. My heaven will be mostly 1970s like and have hardly if anything from now. I prefer the tried and true to new ideas anyday. Eating contests being evil is a very new idea.

I guess I see that we have made such progress in areas such as race relations and gender issues in the past 50 years. Of course, I am able to feed my family because of opportunities available to me that wouldn’t have been there if I was born 50 years earlier than I was.

Yes, there are new problems, and problems that have been made worse by technology, but in general, I like to think that the human race is still growing and learning, and we can look back at human and institutional behaviors in the past and recognize that we were in error about many things.

I appreciate tradition in its place (e.g. I like to attend a Latin mass every once in a while but don’t think it should be that way every Sunday) but I see the need for reform, growth and change. Some traditions need to change, and eating competitions are one of them.

 

[aspawloski4th]

I guess I see that we have made such progress in areas such as race relations and gender issues in the past 50 years. Of course, I am able to feed my family because of opportunities available to me that wouldn’t have been there if I was born 50 years earlier than I was.

Yes, there are new problems, and problems that have been made worse by technology, but in general, I like to think that the human race is still growing and learning, and we can look back at human and institutional behaviors in the past and recognize that we were in error about many things.

I appreciate tradition in its place (e.g. I like to attend a Latin mass every once in a while but don’t think it should be that way every Sunday) but I see the need for reform, growth and change. Some traditions need to change, and eating competitions are one of them.

When you change something, especially some that there was no big outcry to change, you can not expect people to politely , quietly, or nicely go along with it. My envirmentl is even more strongly like that than most… On my side of town there are very few , Mexican, Polish, Lithuanian, or Dutch Decent people who are mid aged or older who would even think of taking a bite of something not of their ethnicity. The Mexican family nextdoor to me will listen to only Mexican radio and watch Mexican tv. Like Ive said before no decade was perfect, but after the 1950s things went down hill and continune to go downhill. I choose not to go along with it, especially the pettieness of the present time. We live in the most eveil of times in wester culture in the last 1000 years.

 

[philialeaf]

When you change something, especially some that there was no big outcry to change, you can not expect people to politely , quietly, or nicely go along with it. My envirmentl is even more strongly like that than most… On my side of town there are very few , Mexican, Polish, Lithuanian, or Dutch Decent people who are mid aged or older who would even think of taking a bite of something not of their ethnicity. The Mexican family nextdoor to me will listen to only Mexican radio and watch Mexican tv. Like Ive said before no decade was perfect, but after the 1950s things went down hill and continune to go downhill. I choose not to go along with it, especially the pettieness of the present time. We live in the most eveil of times in wester culture in the last 1000 years.

It sounds like you live in an interesting neighborhood. I do hope you get the chance to talk with your neighbors from time to time!

I have a book recommendation for you and for everyone who thinks we live in such an evil time. It’s called Saving Childhood: Protecting Our Children from the National Assault on Innocence by Michael Medved. In fact, I suppose I would recommend it to anyone who cares about children! In the last couple chapters he goes over the ways that we’re better and/or worse off now than in times in the past, with crime statistics and so on. A lot of it is our perception and the fact that crime is reported a lot more than before. There are more people afraid of each other now.

Well, it’s been a while since I read it but he makes a lot of good points and it’s well researched. I definitely would not say it’s the worst time and culture in the last 1000 years! Where did that come from? I’m sure a lot of us can think of a handful of examples at least, of times and cultures more evil than our own. (Isn’t this judging again?)

Have a wonderful night!