Canada Supreme Court: Catholic schools have right to teach Church views [CNA]

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http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/i...ell_via_Flickr_CC_BY_20_CNA_3_20_15.jpgOttawa, Canada, Mar 20, 2015 / 02:01 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- Canada’s Supreme Court has unanimously ruled that Catholic schools in Quebec must be allowed to teach from a Catholic viewpoint during a state-mandated religion and ethics class.

“To tell a Catholic school how to explain its faith undermines the liberty of the members of its community who have chosen to give effect to the collective dimension of their religious beliefs by participating in a denominational school,” the Canadian Supreme Court wrote in its 7-0 March 19 decision.

The province of Quebec in July 2008 introduced a mandatory religion and ethics class and required it to be taught without regard to any religion. Even in Catholic schools, teachers were barred from voicing a preference for any faith.

The rules would mean that if a student in the class asked about a Catholic perspective on a religion, a teacher would not be allowed to answer.

Additionally, the course must be taught regardless of whether a school receives state funds.

The Jesuit-run Loyola High School in Montreal challenged the law.

“This ruling makes clear that the government is on dangerous ground if it seeks to force a private organization to act in a manner completely contrary to its deepest faith convictions,” Canadian attorney Gerald Chipeur, who represented the school, said March 19.

The court’s decision means that “faith-based schools are free to operate according to the faith they teach and espouse.”

Chipeur’s law firm, Miller Thompson LLP, is allied with Alliance Defending Freedom International, the global organization of the U.S.-based religious freedom legal group.

ADF International’s executive director, Benjamin Bull, said the government “cannot require a private, religious school to tell its students that their faith is no more valid than a myriad of other, conflicting faith traditions.”

“All faith-based organizations must be free to speak and act consistently with their faith, or religious freedom is not at all free.”

The court ruling noted that the requirement interferes with parents’ right to transmit their Catholic faith to their children, “not because it requires neutral discussion of other faiths and ethical systems, but because it prevents a Catholic discussion of Catholicism.” Transmission of religious faith is “an essential ingredient of the vitality of a religious community.”

Undermining lawful religious institutions’ character and disrupting religious communities’ vitality represents “a profound interference with religious freedom,” the court said.

While the court’s ruling against the province requirement was unanimous, the justices were split 4-3 on how to resolve the situation. The majority ruled that the matter should be sent back to Quebec’s Minister of Education, meaning that Loyola High School may now reapply to the Education Ministry for an exemption to teach the program. The ministry’s decision must be guided by the court ruling, CBC News reports.

Benoît Boucher, who represented Quebec’s Attorney General, said the ruling shows that it is should be mandatory for all students in the province to have a thorough understanding of diversity.

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Ottawa, Canada, Mar 20, 2015 / 02:01 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- Canada’s Supreme Court has unanimously ruled that Catholic schools in Quebec must be allowed to teach from a Catholic viewpoint during a state-mandated religion and ethics class.
“To tell a Catholic school how to explain its faith undermines the liberty of the members of its community who have chosen to give effect to the collective dimension of their religious beliefs by participating in a denominational school,” the Canadian Supreme Court wrote in its 7-0 March 19 decision.
The province of Quebec in July 2008 introduced a mandatory religion and ethics class and required it to be taught without regard to any religion. Even in Catholic schools, teachers were barred from voicing a preference for any faith.
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A great court judgement. A victory for all those bleeding heart, equal rights liberals.
Just what they want.
Tolerance and diversity in schools.
😃

You want me to tolerate your sexuality?
How about you start tolerating my SPIRITUALITY!
 
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/i...ell_via_Flickr_CC_BY_20_CNA_3_20_15.jpgOttawa, Canada, Mar 20, 2015 / 02:01 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- Canada’s Supreme Court has unanimously ruled that Catholic schools in Quebec must be allowed to teach from a Catholic viewpoint during a state-mandated religion and ethics class.

“To tell a Catholic school how to explain its faith undermines the liberty of the members of its community who have chosen to give effect to the collective dimension of their religious beliefs by participating in a denominational school,” the Canadian Supreme Court wrote in its 7-0 March 19 decision.

The province of Quebec in July 2008 introduced a mandatory religion and ethics class and required it to be taught without regard to any religion. Even in Catholic schools, teachers were barred from voicing a preference for any faith.

The rules would mean that if a student in the class asked about a Catholic perspective on a religion, a teacher would not be allowed to answer.

Additionally, the course must be taught regardless of whether a school receives state funds.

The Jesuit-run Loyola High School in Montreal challenged the law.

“This ruling makes clear that the government is on dangerous ground if it seeks to force a private organization to act in a manner completely contrary to its deepest faith convictions,” Canadian attorney Gerald Chipeur, who represented the school, said March 19.

The court’s decision means that “faith-based schools are free to operate according to the faith they teach and espouse.”

Chipeur’s law firm, Miller Thompson LLP, is allied with Alliance Defending Freedom International, the global organization of the U.S.-based religious freedom legal group.

ADF International’s executive director, Benjamin Bull, said the government “cannot require a private, religious school to tell its students that their faith is no more valid than a myriad of other, conflicting faith traditions.”

“All faith-based organizations must be free to speak and act consistently with their faith, or religious freedom is not at all free.”

The court ruling noted that the requirement interferes with parents’ right to transmit their Catholic faith to their children, “not because it requires neutral discussion of other faiths and ethical systems, but because it prevents a Catholic discussion of Catholicism.” Transmission of religious faith is “an essential ingredient of the vitality of a religious community.”

Undermining lawful religious institutions’ character and disrupting religious communities’ vitality represents “a profound interference with religious freedom,” the court said.

While the court’s ruling against the province requirement was unanimous, the justices were split 4-3 on how to resolve the situation. The majority ruled that the matter should be sent back to Quebec’s Minister of Education, meaning that Loyola High School may now reapply to the Education Ministry for an exemption to teach the program. The ministry’s decision must be guided by the court ruling, CBC News reports.

Benoît Boucher, who represented Quebec’s Attorney General, said the ruling shows that it is should be mandatory for all students in the province to have a thorough understanding of diversity.

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I’m glad that Loyola Catholic high school stuck it through and won, I was against this mandatory ethics course from the beginning.
 
It is really stupid that this was even challenged to begin with but thanks be to God that their right to teach Catholic views was upheld.
 
I think the point is they always had the right to teach Catholic views in every other class, like the religion classes, but the government-mandated religions/ethics course was supposed to be a neutral overview of various beliefs and traditions. All this judgement does is give schools the right to undermine the one glimmer of impartiality the students would have had access to.

I’m fairly certain the same conservatives cheering this decision would have a very different take on the ruling were it made in favour of an Islamic school that wished to ensure their students entire education took place inside a theological echo chamber.
 
I think the point is they always had the right to teach Catholic views in every other class, like the religion classes, but the government-mandated religions/ethics course was supposed to be a neutral overview of various beliefs and traditions. All this judgement does is give schools the right to undermine the one glimmer of impartiality the students would have had access to.
Why do you think that ‘impartiality’ in a parochial school is a good thing? Why do you think parents are thus sending their kids to these schools when plenty of ‘impartiality’ is to be found in government run schools?

And who decides what is impartial anyway. In my view the Catholic church is impartial already, everything else is a slant from that basic set of truths.
I’m fairly certain the same conservatives cheering this decision would have a very different take on the ruling were it made in favour of an Islamic school that wished to ensure their students entire education took place inside a theological echo chamber.
And I am quite certain you would be wrong for the most part. No doubt that there are some ‘conservatives’ who simply hate Islam and regard any manifestation of it to be evil and to be fought. But in a school set up by Muslims for their kids that are already Muslim, I have yet to meet a conservative that would oppose any use of Muslim teachings in such a school. And if they do, then they are more hypocrite than conservative, demanding rights for themselves that they would then deny to others.

And there are far fewer of them than you seem to think would be typical of them.
 


And I am quite certain you would be wrong for the most part. No doubt that there are some ‘conservatives’ who simply hate Islam and regard any manifestation of it to be evil and to be fought. But in a school set up by Muslims for their kids that are already Muslim, I have yet to meet a conservative that would oppose any use of Muslim teachings in such a school. And if they do, then they are more hypocrite than conservative, demanding rights for themselves that they would then deny to others.

And there are far fewer of them than you seem to think would be typical of them.
Yea, I am a conservative who was too lazy to respond to this allegation with an actual answer, but I second that motion.
 
I think the point is they always had the right to teach Catholic views in every other class, like the religion classes, but the government-mandated religions/ethics course was supposed to be a neutral overview of various beliefs and traditions. All this judgement does is give schools the right to undermine the one glimmer of impartiality the students would have had access to.

I’m fairly certain the same conservatives cheering this decision would have a very different take on the ruling were it made in favour of an Islamic school that wished to ensure their students entire education took place inside a theological echo chamber.
I think you might need to re-read the story. The private school in question was restricted to teach Catholicism by the very nature of this unjust law. Supreme Court would not have have ruled or even taken the case if the government didn’t go after private schools.
 
I think the point is they always had the right to teach Catholic views in every other class, like the religion classes, but the government-mandated religions/ethics course was supposed to be a neutral overview of various beliefs and traditions. All this judgement does is give schools the right to undermine the one glimmer of impartiality the students would have had access to.

I’m fairly certain the same conservatives cheering this decision would have a very different take on the ruling were it made in favour of an Islamic school that wished to ensure their students entire education took place inside a theological echo chamber.
My entire education took place in the theological Echo chamber. What is wrong with that?
 
I think the point is they always had the right to teach Catholic views in every other class, like the religion classes, but the government-mandated religions/ethics course was supposed to be a neutral overview of various beliefs and traditions. All this judgement does is give schools the right to undermine the one glimmer of impartiality the students would have had access to.

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So it was going to portray the ethics of, say, Klansmen and Gandhi as all being equal.

Is that what you are claiming?

That a teacher could not show favoritism between say Nietzsche’s concept of Übermensch and Aquinas’ Summum Bonum ?

They were all to be impartially taught in Quebec?
 
For the life of me, I cannot fathom how such a law even existed in order to be challenged in the first place!!! :confused: Makes it hard to celebrate this so-called victory…more like ditching a bullet.:mad: What’s next? State-mandated teachings by parents at home? This law is not at all far from “Catholicism is dangerous to children and is henceforth banned in this country” 🤷
 
I’m fairly certain the same conservatives cheering this decision would have a very different take on the ruling were it made in favour of an Islamic school that wished to ensure their students entire education took place inside a theological echo chamber.
If I had a problem with Muslim schools teaching unequivocally the truthfulness and superiority of Islam, then I suppose I would also have a problem with Muslim parents teaching unequivocally the truthfulness and superiority of their faith to their own children. 🤷 Since it is parents’ choice that their children go to a religious “echo chamber” school, you are claiming that the government has a right to impose its own world-view on the children over and above their parents…

That said, the school is set up by people who belong to and want to spread and teach the truth of a certain religion. Why do you think the government should force them to teach that other religions they reject are equally true???:confused: If they believed that they would not be creating a religious school, don’t you think? Or do you not think they have freedom of religion and conscience themselves? I cannot stand up and teach innocent young children that the teachings of Jesus Christ are equal to any one in history who ever had a thought about morals and contradicted him, I’m sorry.:o Lying to children about right and wrong is not a good thing to do. Better have a stone tied to your neck and drowned!!:eek:😃
 
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