Actually, in an instance such as being demonstrated here, I would summarily be calling the police.Is this how you behave with your parishioners? You try to bully them into adopting your views through emotional black mail then engage adhominems? What a grand example of compassion you are?
AND THIS IS AGREED! Exactly why do you not see that this is agreed and not debated???
Yes. It is here that I say the pope is MISTAKEN, WRONG, in his lettee to the Argentinians. THAT IS EXACTLY MY VIEW. NOT THAT THE POPE IS LYING.
Yeah, I can just imagine the conversation:
Do you appreciate the gravity of the charge you make against the Pope?AND THIS IS AGREED! Exactly why do you not see that this is agreed and not debated???
Yes. It is here that I say the pope is MISTAKEN, WRONG, in his lettee to the Argentinians. THAT IS EXACTLY MY VIEW. NOT THAT THE POPE IS LYING.
Sorry to use all caps but I dont know how many times I can state the same thing without going mad.
No.Yeah, I can just imagine the conversation:
Dear officer, someone dared to DISAGREE with me!!! HEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLPPPPP!!!
Do you? Or do you believe John Paul II taught the church an error in Familiaris Consortio? I am denying that AL contradicts FC. If you disagree you certainly are making that very charge against at least one pope in their teaching to the church. Question is, is it Francis or JPII who got the issue wrong? Mine is neither: because AL does not contradict FC.
My answer is I don’t have decades of theological experience and there are matters, even apparent and evident to me contradictions - that I don’t understand or can’t resolve. I don’t then have a need to declare one Pope (or another) guilty of grave error. Rather, I search for/await a better understanding.
Oh sure…
My.Oh sure…
Please officer, someone typed in ALL CAPS…HEEEEEELLLLLPPPPP!!!
Yeah, that is SOOOOO much better!
Are you really a priest, or is that sonething you say to keep people from responding in kind to your attacks?
Said the kettle to the pot.
No it does not. Unless you think the only way a pope can err is through deliberately misleading the church as opposed to being simply wrong. I must admit that you simply refuse to read what I am actually saying and instead are insisting on imputing your own meaning to what I am saying.
:tsktsk:
FYI - St. John Paul never commented on the Argentinians proposal, nor did he use the word “impossible” in dealing with this topic. Had he done so, he could have made an infallible proclamation, which he did not do. What he wrote was:
I wanted to clarify this because exaggeration of any kind must be avoided. Not all the Church leadership is in agreement on what can be done and cannot be done to implement Amoris Laetitia. There really should be more tolerance of disagreement here simply because there is not infallible proclamation made on this topic.
That comment is telling the man to remove his own log from his eye first. THIS IS YOUR DEFINITION OF AN ATTACK? Have you bothered to read any of the horendous attacks this man has launched on me for disagreeing with him? Are you for real??? Or perhaps you approve? I suppose if I register on a forum and tell everyone I am a priest, I get to attack them as much as I want and they had better say nothing back lest another jump in and say “Gasp! You said that to a priest???
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