Canceled the wedding. Can the relationship be saved?

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Pull your head out of the sand and realize that you have done the right thing by calling this off.

As petty as it sounds, be glad you made this decision now, before you had cute little table decorations you made from Hobby Lobby stuff sitting in your closet, or the wedding menu cooking on a commercial range someplace.

Count your blessing that you are not crying in the night, with little children around you who are also crying for whatever stupid thing he, their daddy, did.

It will hurt a good deal for quite awhile. It will hurt a lot less than if you had married him.
 
The thing is though, he has told me that he does not wish his fetish to go away, his goal is to minimize it to the point its an occasional thing, not an important part of his sex life or to need to do it as a form of stress relief. Personally, I think I can live with this, but catholic wise is this ok?
He is not ready for marriage commitment. And, sorry, but neither are you if you think you can live with his “fetish”.

Get a copy of Christopher West’s Theology of the Body. Learn why “catholic-wise” this is not ok. And don’t settle for anyone who says he loves you but wants something else on the side.
 
Love is a decision, not an emotion.

It sounds as if you are so wrapped up in emotions that you can’t come to the decision that the relationship is not healthy.
 
Get out NOW!!! Honestly, if a man ‘strays’ BEFORE the wedding…forget it! No ‘continence’ now, means no ‘continence’ when it really matters! Get out, break off all contact and next time…in the nicest possible way: keep your pants on until the ‘I do’:o Because if a man can date for 2 or 3 years without sex, you’ll have a pretty good idea he’ll be able to go for sex and be faithful to one woman once he’s married.

Anna x
 
So what else in the past is he hiding?

How long into the marriage before he drops another bomb on you?

Will you be pregnant when he decides to tell you he “slipped” again?

After a long day of cleaning house, working and watching the kids will you find a receipt in his pocket from a hotel that he did not take you to?

Will you be thinking the worst when he’s late from work?

How about when he talks to other women will it bother you?

What will the children think when they find “daddy’s stash” of “who knows what”?

Are you ready for all the “what ifs”?

How do you feel about waiting,hoping,praying,thinking,and wondering if,when,did he,could he,will he cheat on you again?

He could turn out to be a great husband and father,but are you willing to let go of his past?

Remember it’s…

For better or for worse

in sickness and in health

until death do us part.

And knowing his behavior and still marrying him makes those vows valid.

not…

I promise to love you until…

you cheat on me
you make me mad
you gain weight
you go broke
something better comes along.
 
Brenflor,

If he wants to marry you, he may not have a fetish that he will satisfy with anyone else or even alone. He said it would feel bad to satisfy it with you, didn’t he? I’m of the same opinion. I believe there’s no place for masturbation in marital life - even if some theologians go out of their way to justify it if it’s “in the context” of a full marital act. I believe it’s a disease and diseases need to be cured, not harboured.

As for cheating, you can forgive everything, but you can’t really put up with it on a constant basis. Or can you? If you were married, maybe. Seventy seven times… But forgiveness is tied with regret and wish to repent. You can’t really be with someone who does horrible things to you without even realising or without controlling himself enough.

As for prenupt, sorry, you can’t marry under a future condition, i.e. that it will only have been marriage if he doesn’t cheat on you until you die. Normally, you aren’t obliged to continue marital relations with someone who’s cheated on you, but that’s not a reason for divorce. In most cases, prenupts make marriage invalid. In your case, it would be possible that he weren’t intending exactly what the Church understands as marriage, that he’d be making allowances for other things, and that you wouldn’t be giving herself totally to him, but rather making reservations - if he doesn’t do this or that. If I were the priest to bless that marriage, I’d freak out. You certainly need to work all the issues out before you marry.

Already at this point I could enumerate enough potentially nullity grounds to make a canon lawyer shake his head (I’m a civil lawyer with a bit of canon law course and study under my belt). Potentially we have exclusion of fidelity, exclusion of indissolubility, a future condition, lack of sufficient use of will, lack of sufficient understanding of marriage… Let me just add that marriages of doubtful validity are not to be celebrated according to canon law.

All in all, MCGar is right about the vacation. If you want to keep him, he needs to work it all out. At this point, because of all the abuse you’ve been exposed to, you might have developed your own issues - not sure if you need to see a therapist about them, but it won’t hurt. You certainly could use some external help in setting your emotional life straight after all this.

And you have my sympathies. I have had one relationship that broke apart because of not only the bad things between us, but also masturbation and other troubling things on her part. It had to break apart and I wasn’t quite able to do it. Thankfully she came up with her own reason to break up. Some time after that, I ended up in a relationship in which unchaste things didn’t happen (well, at least not overt ones), but exclusion of progeny popped up (i.e. she didn’t know if she’d ever want to have children), as well as some other things. That relationship, too, had to go. Again she did it. But sometimes one needs to end one himself. You did just that. In my opinion you did right. You don’t need to get into a relationship with another guy now and you can also wait and see what turns out with this one. But you don’t really need to be his girlfriend until it’s clear.

And once again you did a good thing calling off the wedding. You need a real marriage, not one in which you don’t even know the person has a sufficient use of will, let alone what he intends by the oath.
 
You are very fortunate you found out all of this before you married this person.

In the business world, when interviewing candidates for a job, there is a saying: the best predictor of future performance is past performance.

This is no different when discerning a partner for marriage. And, I have to tell you-- his past behavior is the best predictor of his future behavior. He’s a cheater, he has a mental condition, he has disordered sexual desires that he acts on both solo and with prostitutes.

Move on, don’t look back, and for heaven’s sake please stop trying to rationalize and downplay all of this. These are huge red flags and you were right to call of the wedding, now you need to cut the rest of the ties.
 
Brenflor,

I’m sorry but I have to ask…what is going on with you that would make you even consider marrying this man???

I think some serious therapy is in order for you here. The fact that you don’t think you and your future family deserve better is a red flag to me. You both need to get yourselves in order before you could even contemplate marriage, and that is likely far off. He’s not right for you, and from what you have said I frankly don’t think you are right for him either.
 
True love doesn’t mean putting up with abusive and dangerous behaviour. You have not made a sacramental vow to this man, you are under no legal, spiritual or even courteous obligation to remain in a relationship with him.

In fact, because you have not taken such a legal and religious vow with him, his actions have effectively voided the verbal agreement between the two of you.

You don’t have a decision to make. He has already decided for you. Liven your social life with a fun hobby, safe, happy friends and a spiritual prayer life. It sounds like you are willing to be used, tossed to the side and spit on. That he would admit he was enjoying various sexual acts with hired women while waiting for you to give in or seeing if he could find better shows that he knows you think you are a loser who will kiss his backside.

As long as you keep pretending this is a true relationship that just needs fixing, he will continue to use you. If you truly love him, separate yourself from him completely. Maybe someday he will admit his wrongful behaviour, seek forgiveness and be able to love a woman. There is nothing in your post that implies it will ever be you.
 
P.s. if you haven’t already, go get tested for all the STDs out there. I hope it doesn’t have to be said that you shouldn’t even physically be near him. Yuck!
 
Hey Benflor3,

First of all I want to say I am so so sorry you have to go through all this. Secondly that you did the right thing calling off the wedding, absolutely. While your ex-boyfriend’s illicit sexual activity may be a result of PTSD and he is now in counseling, that doesn’t mean it’s going to go away anytime soon. My father saw a lot of combat during his service and it took over ten years of therapy for him to stop having episodes on a regular basis, and while it is very rare, he does still have them. PTSD is not something that can be treated overnight, or in a year, or in two. It is a very long, hard, sad process. The fact is, if your ex had chosen to deal with his trauma in sexual ways, this in not going to stop probably for years, no matter how he tries. Add to that the fact that by continuing a relationship with him after he has cheated on you you may have become part of the problem (through no fault of your own) because if this is PTSD, what he’s doing is a compulsion and since (if you continue the relationship) you’ve provided no consequences for his actions (breaking it off for good), he’ll have less motivation to fight the compulsion.

Also, I’d like to urge to get regular PAP examinations at your Dr.'s if you are not already. HPV, a virus that cause genital warts and, more importantly, cervical cancer is spread through sexual contact and is not tested for through standard male STD testing. Condoms don’t protect against it, either. Incidentally, condoms do not protect against the spread of herpes. Please take care of yourself by not seeing this man again. He sees Hookers. You need to realize that despited his trauma, by marrying him you may wake up one morning to find yourself pregnant with HIV. Think about that long and hard.

Also, seek counseling for yourself to help you deal with the hurt and betrayal so you don’t carry it into future relationship.

God Bless!
 
Oh!

If you do speak with your ex, make sure he’s seeing a Dr. who’s specifically trained to counsel someone who has combat related PTSD . If he isn’t, the VA will have counselors available to him for free.
 
I would say leave this relationship, and don’t look back. But keep him in your prayers. I would also say that you should be praying diligently for God’s will in your life, especially for who to marry. If it is truly God’s will that you should get married, He will tell you who and when, but you have to be open to the Holy Spirit and actively seeking Him, otherwise you might miss it.
People don’t change unless God changes them. Period. This man has red flags all over him. I understand that PTSD and other mental health issues deserve compassion and prayer, but I think it unwise to ever marry a person with an issue like that that is not being treated/resolved effectively. As some other people have mentioned, love is a choice, not a feeling of infatuation- especially one caused by pre-marital sexual intercourse.
Also, take a long look in the mirror and ask God to show you what attracts you to this kind of man. I can guarantee that it is some emotional weakness or past experience that is driving the dynamics of this relationship. Pray that God can work healing in your own life, so that you can make a wise choice.
With every potential partner, you have to ask God and ultimately decide for yourself if he measures up to the Biblical standards. Bottom line- can you be one-souled with a man such as this for the rest of your life?
God Bless.
 
The OP has not posted on this thread for a few days. I hope that she comes back. THreads like these often leave me worried for the poster.
 
Why put yourself through hell? You can choose to “shake the dust from you”, move on and get free from what appears to be a very bad relationship. You can choose to use reason and not allow your emotions to cloud the issues.

You owe it to yourself and to any future children you may desire to pray for God’s help in choosing the right marriage partner. Trust that God knows what is best and He speaks to us in our heart of hearts. You already know the answer in your heart of hearts. Thank God that he has allowed you to see these things BEFORE entering a marriage.

God bless,
 
Aside from the diagnosis of PTSD, my ex-wife has completely different symptoms than your former betrothed, but don’t repeat the mistake I made. With hindsight as a guide, I should have called the wedding off that I just postponed a few months when the symptoms that eventually killed the marriage first started to emerge. You’ve been given the strongest types of warning possible, take heed of it
 
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