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She’s always talking about how the policies in LA where I believe she is from have terribly failed.
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Candace Owens on progressive politics
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why not discuss what she says and not worry about her background? does she speak the truth or not? too many people (not you specifically) judge the cover and don’t address the content.Maybe we should stick to the subject.
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Nepperhan
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Because she could be just another talking head, like Ms. Manigault and several others. Their potency is as black Trump supporters, not for any learned commentary or credibility. If Ms. Owens is stating her opinions based on facts, what reason is there to listen to her opinions?why not discuss what she says and not worry about her background?
I’m not pointing fingers but opportunists abound who seek some celebrity by sticking out from the crowd and by employing extreme statements.
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Right. Don’t listen to anyone who makes use of factual evidence in support of their argument.If Ms. Owens is stating her opinions based on facts, what reason is there to listen to her opinions?
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The question concerns the validity of her opinions based on facts. Anyone can have an opinion. It was not an issue of supporting the use of factual evidence but how someone is qualified to arrive at reasonable conclusions based on facts.Right. Don’t listen to anyone who makes use of factual evidence in support of their argument.
You made a snarky comment.
And what exactly qualifies you to disqualify the opinions expressed by Ms Owens?It was not an issue of supporting the use of factual evidence but how someone is qualified to arrive at reasonable conclusions based on facts.
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Nepperhan
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You personalize this again! The question is Ms. Owens’ qualifications, not mine.And what exactly qualifies you to disqualify the opinions expressed by Ms Owens?
That is a stunning statement! Do American blacks need to be credentialed In order to speak? Credentialed by whom?She’s uncredentialed as a black spokesperson.
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Credentialed by some noted authority. Anyone can speak, but if a person wants his or her views to be granted any credence by minorities, than that person has to speak with some authority which was obtained by study, experience, notoriety or the like.That is a stunning statement! Do American blacks need to be credentialed In order to speak? Credentialed by whom?
Its also nice when minorities are the ones who name minority spokespeople. It lends them credence.
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it is up to each listener to determine if her story has meaning to them. in this day and age of bought studies, no story is without suspect no matter who you are.Anyone can speak, but if a person wants his or her views to be granted any credence by minorities, than that person has to speak with some authority which was obtained by study, experience, notoriety or the like.
In the America I know, no one needs some authority to give them permission or credentials to speak. That’s covered by the 1st amendment.Credentialed by some noted authority.
I wasn’t aware that any of us needs credentials for this. It is the message, not the speaker that receives credence.Anyone can speak, but if a person wants his or her views to be granted any credence by minorities,
How do you know what she has or hadn’t studied. This, IMO, is an elitist view.than that person has to speak with some authority which was obtained by study, experience, notoriety or the like.
Where does Owens say she speaks for minorities? She speaks for herself, and perhaps other Americans who agree with her.Its also nice when minorities are the ones who name minority spokespeople.
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Then please tell me why conservatives love to run her out and let her perform? Why listen to her views? Candidly, if she were not black there would be no fuss made about her. It is the majority communities who presume that she is a black spokesperson. They should, more appropriately, let black folks determine who speaks for them. If she is someone who just happens to be black, what makes her thoughts worth listening to? The question of her credentials cannot be avoided.Where does Owens say she speaks for minorities? She speaks for herself, and perhaps other Americans who agree with her.
And you are wrong: The 1st amendment does not give anyone credentials to speak – it gives the right to speak without government hindrance. I spoke of someone being credentialed to be called a spokesperson.
Run her out to perform?Then please tell me why conservatives love to run her out and let her perform?
Wow!
And she won’t vote for Biden, so she isn’t really black.Why listen to her views? Candidly, if she were not black there would be no fuss made about her.
But only if they follow the Democrat party line, right? Otherwise, they “lack credentials”.They should, more appropriately, let black folks determine who speaks for them.
Just stunning.
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