Cannibalism against Natural Law?

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Is it only by Divine Revelation that we know the cannibalism is against the divine law? For instance, the Church has on occasion said that cannibalism is okay in extremis, so long as the circumstances are dire and the people were not killed for the purpose of food. So if something is not contrary to the Natural Law in extremis, how is it contrary to the Natural Law in normal circumstances?

I’m not saying I’m all for cannibalism and such. But it seems we cannot *philosophically *prove that cannibalism, i.e. the eating of dead corpses, is wrong, as long as people aren’t killed for that purpose (or anything relating to that). Please prove me wrong.
 
awatkins69 said:
Is it only by Divine Revelation that we know the cannibalism is against the divine law? For instance, the Church has on occasion said that cannibalism is okay in extremis, so long as the circumstances are dire and the people were not killed for the purpose of food. So if something is not contrary to the Natural Law in extremis, how is it contrary to the Natural Law in normal circumstances?

I’m not saying I’m all for cannibalism and such. But it seems we cannot *philosophically *prove that cannibalism, i.e. the eating of dead corpses, is wrong, as long as people aren’t killed for that purpose (or anything relating to that). Please prove me wrong.
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My dear friend

I’ll speculate. Cannibalism was against the natural law in the beginning because we were never meant to die and would have no suffeing, diffuclties, lack of food etc.

But after original sin things changed big time. And in special circumstances one may do this without any killing for it , in order to survive. As a result of original sin it can be a necessity in grave circumstances. As a result of original sin you cannot accept it under normal circumstances as there would certainly be abuses and killing for the purpose of it. People are now fallen and naturally prone to evil. If we encorage cannibalism by making it acceptable under normal circumstances there will be abuses and some direct killing for the purpose of it. No question about that.

God bless you and may holy St Joseph bless you. Happy feast day, and pray for me:thumbsup:🙂

John
 
awatkins69 said:
Is it only by Divine Revelation that we know the cannibalism is against the divine law? For instance, the Church has on occasion said that cannibalism is okay in extremis, so long as the circumstances are dire and the people were not killed for the purpose of food. So if something is not contrary to the Natural Law in extremis, how is it contrary to the Natural Law in normal circumstances?

I’m not saying I’m all for cannibalism and such. But it seems we cannot *philosophically *prove that cannibalism, i.e. the eating of dead corpses, is wrong, as long as people aren’t killed for that purpose (or anything relating to that). Please prove me wrong.
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Are you talking about the Eucharist? The bread and the wine literally are transubstantiated into the actual flesh and blood of Christ - according to Catholics. (Protestants take a healthier approach, they mean this act allegorically.) But in the Catholic teaching that is cannibalism in the purest sense. What a strange crowd you are! Carrying an implement of extreme torture on a chain around your neck, putting this contraption on top of your churches to decorate it, etc… and, of course performing a ritual cannibalistic act every week.
 
R_Daneel said:
Are you talking about the Eucharist?
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It cannot be. The eucharist is not physical flesh.
The bread and the wine literally are transubstantiated into the actual flesh and blood of Christ - according to Catholics. (Protestants take a healthier approach, they mean this act allegorically.) But in the Catholic teaching that is cannibalism in the purest sense. What a strange crowd you are! Carrying an implement of extreme torture on a chain around your neck, putting this contraption on top of your churches to decorate it, etc… and, of course performing a ritual cannibalistic act every week.
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Better a fool for Christ than a minion of satan.
 
Thing said:
Every day, actually. Mass is celebrated every day.
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Thanks for the correction. “Live and learn” - though in the MMORG I play it is sometimes: “Die and learn”. Fortunately the death in the game is not permanent, a nice cleric can cast “rez” on you and you are resurrected. That would be a nice enhancement to RL (real life), for sure… should we petition the developer for such a change? Nah, he is not likely to respond. Probably too stubborn to take the player (name removed by moderator)ut into consideration. 😉
davidv said:
And probably more.
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I sure agree here.
 
R Daneel:
That would be a nice enhancement to RL (real life), for sure… should we petition the developer for such a change? Nah, he is not likely to respond. Probably too stubborn to take the player (name removed by moderator)ut into consideration.
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Well, you could ask, what have you got to lose?
 
Thing said:
Well, you could ask, what have you got to lose?
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My time. 🙂 I can just play instead and get guaranteed satisfaction for my effort. By the way, when I was just a kid I asked for things as honestly as only an innocent and trusting child can. I did not even ask for myself, I asked for others. Guess what? No answer. As a matter of fact, that was the time when the first doubts started to raise their beautiful heads. So, as an old (maybe cynical) and definitely skeptical adult I would not waste time on such useless endeavors.
 
R_Daneel said:
My time. 🙂 I can just play instead and get guaranteed satisfaction for my effort. By the way, when I was just a kid I asked for things as honestly as only an innocent and trusting child can. I did not even ask for myself, I asked for others. Guess what? No answer. As a matter of fact, that was the time when the first doubts started to raise their beautiful heads. So, as an old (maybe cynical) and definitely skeptical adult I would not waste time on such useless endeavors.
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I would’nt tell someone what to do. Though I see no profit in doubts. Often people find that at some stage they return to their childhood loves, perhaps you need to run the gamut of cynicism and skepticism first.
Good luck anyway, or God Bless.
 
R_Daneel said:
Thanks for the correction. “Live and learn” - though in the MMORG I play it is sometimes: “Die and learn”. Fortunately the death in the game is not permanent, a nice cleric can cast “rez” on you and you are resurrected. That would be a nice enhancement to RL (real life), for sure… should we petition the developer for such a change? Nah, he is not likely to respond. Probably too stubborn to take the player (name removed by moderator)ut into consideration. 😉

I sure agree here.
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In “real” life, there will be a bodily resurrection. The only permanent thing about real death in this life is that the next life won’t be in this world.
 
I am NOT talking about the Eucharist. The Eucharist is substantially the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Our Lord. Cannibalism is the eating of some fresh human meat.
 
R_Daneel said:
If only you had any proof for this, I would be delighted. 🙂
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The person of Jesus is your proof. He was crucified, died, and was buried. On the third day he rose from the dead, conquering death and opening the gates of heaven, where we can live with Him forever if we choose.
 
awatkins69 said:
I am NOT talking about the Eucharist. The Eucharist is substantially the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Our Lord. Cannibalism is the eating of some fresh human meat.
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AMEN FRIEND. What on earth are all these replies about the eucharist? You clearly had a good question that was nothing to do with the eucharist. I gave a reasonable reply. Sorry everybody took your question the wrong way. Why I don’t know ?

God bless you:thumbsup:🙂
John
 
Yes, thank you for your reply. So with that said, the only reason cannibalism could be counted as being against the Natural Law is because it will likely lead to killing for that purpose? But it is not in itself wrong in this case, correct?
 
awatkins69 said:
Yes, thank you for your reply. So with that said, the only reason cannibalism could be counted as being against the Natural Law is because it will likely lead to killing for that purpose? But it is not in itself wrong in this case, correct?
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My dear friend

It is unnatural for humans to eat humans for whatever reason. In the food chain humans are at the top and can eat anything non human that is not a danger to us. If there is no other choice but to eat a dead human we may to keep alive. It is an exceprion to the norm. I heard a story from Papua New Guinea a while ago where cannobilism was common until not log ago. I think it may have been about 1970 and they cooked and ate a human body there, they did not kill of course, and the body had serious disease. The practise went on and on with huge numbers of people dying because the dead had the disease on and on from the first body. But that’s not the reason. Just because an exception is made in rare extreme cases to stay alive does not mean the exception can or should apply always. The natural instinct in man to stay alive and his right to life allows for an exception to the rule if no other option is available.

And yes, if it wee made a normal practise there is no doubt there would be abuses and killing would occur. Look at abortin and euthanasia and mercy killing problems today if you think there would not be abuse. Human flesh tasts like chicken cannibals have said and they’ve considered it a delicacy in the example I’ve quoted. I’d hate to think how much it would further feed the culture of death if it were acceptable in normal circumstances.

God bless you:thumbsup:🙂

John
 
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