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The Catholic Church goes much further than that. It declares anyone who believes the Gospel to be “anathema”.
 
FloridaAngler said:
This may be “what you heard”, but it’s a lie. Nobody who affirms the Biblical doctrine of eternal security believes you don’t sin after you’re saved.
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So it means you are not saved yet. You haven’t run the race until the finishing line.
 
In your religion, I would not be saved yet. In our religion, yes, I’m saved.
 
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In your religion, I would not be saved yet. In our religion, yes, I’m saved.
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Yup, you can live in your own bubble but it does not mean that will really go to heaven. Only God decides that, not you or your religion.
 
Yup. You do not want to run into me alright as I will not suffer fool.

You might want to step back when you used the word ‘lie’. If you want to respond to my post, you will get what you put in. I can be nice or be rude, any way you want the game be played.

I usually do not entertain vexatious post but since yours was responding to me, you were not exactly very nice as well.
 
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Nice try, but I did not say anything to provoke your rude response. All I said was, “According to your religion, I am not saved. According to our religion, I am saved”.

Both are true. According to Catholicism, I am not saved. I’m considered anathema. According to our religion, I am saved.

That’s all.

And now, you’re calling me a fool.

You’re not representing Catholicism very well.
 
FloridaAngler said:
In your religion, I would not be saved yet. In our religion, yes, I’m saved.
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I can’t tell what denomination’s beliefs, if any, you adhere to. Who is the “our” you reference in “our religion?” And what is its/your position on the tenets I’ve ascribed to Fundamentalism (post #5 in this thread)?
 
Who is the “our” you reference in “our religion?”
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Christianity.
And what is its/your position on the tenets I’ve ascribed to Fundamentalism (post #5 in this thread)?
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First, you try to put everybody who believes in the Biblical doctrine of eternal security into the “fundamentalist” camp. I get that that’s a Catholic thing, to try to demean anybody who disagrees with Catholic doctrine, but it’s not true and makes you look like you’re just out to put down anybody who affirms the Biblical doctrine of eternal security.

Second, we don’t believe in “accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior”.

Third, we don’t believe that we repent each time we sin in order to be pardoned. The Bible says we’ve already been forgiven and that we confess when we sin in order to restore us to a right relationship with God, and to help us examine our sin and crucify it.

Fourth, you claim we believe that Paul’s warnings in 1 Cor 6 don’t apply to born again believers. Can’t imagine where you got that particular talking point. You clearly didn’t look the passage up for yourself. If you had, you would have seen that Paul followed that warning up with telling them, “…but such WERE some of you” and explaining how they have been given a new heart and no longer do those things.

Fifth, you claim we conflate justification and sanctification. Again, not even remotely true. They are two separate and distinct events.

Sixth, you claim we believe that Jesus’ teaching that he who endured to the end only applies to the disciples and that one can not endure, but still be saved. Not only is that not true, it flies in the face of the Biblical doctrine of preservation of the saints.
 
I am certainly not trying to pidgeonhole you as “Fundamentalist,” my friend. I don’t know what your beliefs are. (Although given your last post I now know a little about what they are not.) Perhaps you’ll enlighten me.

Christianity is my religion too – in the broad sense.
 
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FloridaAngler said:
The Catholic Church goes much further than that. It declares anyone who believes the Gospel to be “anathema”
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Are you saying the Catholic Church does not believe in the Gospels?
The Gospels of Matthew Mark, Luke and John.
 
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You claimed though that when Paul warns that anyone who is deceitful, immoral, adulterous and idolatrous, that this does not apply to believers. Yet, Paul is not writing though to non believers, but to believers, warning them that anyone who does such things shall not enter the Kingdom, and the sacrifice for sins no longer remains for them.
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Correct. And then, in v 11, he tells them that they WERE those people, but are no longer, because they have been “washed, sanctified, and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.”

You quote part of the passage to make it appear Paul is telling they can lose their salvation if they do these things, but then ignore the verse which shows Paul isn’t referring to them, but to non-Christians who continue to do these things.
 
So where exactly has the Catholic Church declared Catholics are not to believe in the Gospels?

And can you explain why the Gospels are read in Mass under the Liturgy of the Word daily?

I think someone is pulling your leg
 
Again show that statement from the Catholic Church. Where is it recorded. Produce it
 
You have me a bit confused here FloiridaAngler,

"Correct. And then, in v 11, he tells them that they WERE those people, but are no longer, because they have been “washed, sanctified, and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.”

“You quote part of the passage to make it appear Paul is telling they can lose their salvation if they do these things, but then ignore the verse which shows Paul isn’t referring to them, but to non-Christians who continue to do these things.”

You emphasis -WERE those people-. But is it not true that because we are humans and are not perfect, that the Christian can fall into temptation and thus can, once again, be -deceitful, immoral, adulterous or idolatrous?
Are you suggesting here that the members of Paul’s audience will never again fall into temptation and commit these sins?

If I have it wrong, what is your point?
 
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