Capoeira Specifically

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Baelor,

I would give it a little more caution than that…it sounds like from many people who know more about it that there is something more too it…it’s main coming about and purpose has always been for spiritual reasons…that is why in other countries you would never pay to do yoga…just like you wouldn’t pay to go to church.
 
Sabeth123 said:
I would give it a little more caution than that…it sounds like from many people who know more about it that there is something more too it…it’s main coming about and purpose has always been for spiritual reasons…that is why in other countries you would never pay to do yoga…just like you wouldn’t pay to go to church.
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I trust the Church and the Catholics I know who teach or practice secular yoga for health benefits and are completely orthodox.

In my country, secularized yoga exists. What happens in other countries, why yoga was originally developed, etc. are all completely irrelevant. The people practicing secularized yoga, like secularized capoeira, can do so with no belief that they are doing anything spiritual at all.
 
Baelor,

Well that could be true IF you can seperate it like that…and maybe you can…but I don’t think that means throwing caution to the wind especially when you know what it was originally intended for.

The whole purpose of my question was to find if it was possible to do/learn Capoeira without participating in a faulse religion, and I have yet to find a way…although I would like to.
 
Arrependida said:
Now with Capoeira. In every Capoeira session one will sing and drum and clap "pontos de macumba"which are specific liturgical songs that call the entities and other spirits to the “roda” (capoeira circle). For a white north american, it may just look like silly folklore, but there are spiritual realities being summoned there, a tradition of generations of people that have been doing those very moves, to those sounds with a specific purpose in mind…
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Had no idea about that.

I did a little capoiera training for a very brief time at the JKD school I was attending. At the time the JKD school I was attending had some slight affiliation with the Milwaukee capoeira school.

I’m not white either.

Crazy body movements though… something much different than I was used to.
 
TimeEntrance,

I know right?! I wouldn’t of had a clue either. It just looked fun to me and I would have just tried it but I wasn’t able to yet and so in the meantime I had some time, so I started looking into it a little more…and then the things that Arrependida said on top of it all…
 
Sabeth123 said:
Well that could be true IF you can seperate it like that…and maybe you can…
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You can. If you could not, then you could not mention another religion but in prayer or curse, enter another faith’s holy place (e.g. a mosque) without worshiping there, and so forth.
but I don’t think that means throwing caution to the wind especially when you know what it was originally intended for.
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No one is stating that caution should be abandoned. I am saying that the origin can, in cases like yoga and capoeira, be discarded if it is no longer applicable.
The whole purpose of my question was to find if it was possible to do/learn Capoeira without participating in a faulse religion, and I have yet to find a way…although I would like to.
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The answer is yes. Participate in it without engaging in prayer. This does not seem difficult to me.
 
Baelor,

Do you know of a place where Capoeira is taught without this? I don’t.
 
Sabeth123 said:
Baelor,

Do you know of a place where Capoeira is taught without this? I don’t.
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Yes: read the other posts in this thread.
Runner grrrl:
have tried some of the movements (actions) in a fusion exercise DVD and they are fun!
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Arrependida:
Hi, I am from Brazil. Yes, Capoeira is fun, and nowadays practiced as a sport.
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Although the sport may still include its historical bases in Brazil, there is no reason to believe it has to in the US.

Google “capoeira exercise.” See what comes up. If nothing is to your satisfaction, then find something else.
 
Sabeth123 said:
I think you just proved my point.
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I thought you were here to be given information about capoeira, not to make a point. Regardless, if there is any point in this thread, it is that capoeira can be dissociated from religious elements, such as on the aforementioned workout DVD.
 
Baelor,

You are right, I did not start this post to make a point.
 
Sab, I don’t know if this is any help but I looked at the Milwaukee branch of Capoeira’s website and I see that they have some their classes held at Marquette University.

Marquette is a Jesuit run university. Not sure if that helps with your religious inquiry. milwaukeecapoeira.com/class-schedule/

At the JKD school I went to we didn’t sing or dance in a roda or whatever its called. The top JKD student ran the class as he was trained some aspects of Capoeira from some guy I never met. Anyways… he would just put in a CD of the capoeira music and we would go through some of the basic movements. Then as I recall it… we would go through different moves like flips and cartwheels depending on level of ability.

I did stop in on the Milwaukee group one afternoon and that was the only time I saw or partially participated in a roda with the singing (although I didn’t sing and I only stayed in the circle and did not get inside it to kick or dance). There was a lot of energy. I was impressed by that.
 
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