Cardinal Burke: Only Sound Catholic Education Can Transform Our Culture

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“Education, if it is to be sound, that is, for the good of the individual and society, must be especially attentive to arm itself against the errors of secularism and relativism,” Cardinal Burke stated, “lest it fail to communicate to the succeeding generations the truth, beauty and goodness of our life and of our world, as they are expressed in the unchanging teaching of the faith.”
 
Education of both mind and heart. Even then, faith is a gift that can be refused.
 
Yes, but where are you going to find the teachers to teach this? There are habits to be formed, there is good example to give, Catholic identity to be restored, and many other things. Seems like the last 50 years has brought on nothing but decline in morals, liturgy, and learning altogether.
 
Yes, but where are you going to find the teachers to teach this? There are habits to be formed, there is good example to give, Catholic identity to be restored, and many other things. Seems like the last 50 years has brought on nothing but decline in morals, liturgy, and learning altogether.
Have faith. Pray.

Ed
 
In my diocese, the existing Catholic high schools have, for the most part, embraced much of the secular culture. There are many individual teachers who are exceptions to the rule but they do not shape the larger school. In my old high school, the Latin motto was formerly translated, “Strong in the Faith”. Now it is translated, “Strong in Faith”. Note the subtle difference. The diocese is much more orthodox in many ways than in recent decades. But education, alone, seems to be a world in itself, stuck in the 1970s, not really responsive to the bishop or pastors. They follow Common Core.

A few people started a new, independent high school. At least we are called “independent” because we are not under the control of the liberals in the diocesan education department or local liberal religious orders. But ironically we are much more dependent on the Magisterium, loyal to the pope and bishop, than the schools listed in the diocesan directory. We are totally prolife, classical curriculum, daily Mass for all the students.

The “official” Catholic schools, sometimes subsidized and all promoted by the diocese, are the ones really independent of the Church. The girls’ schools established by, and still influenced by convents, seem to be most secularized. The coeds, and schools for boys, are less so. But why is Catholic education still in the 1970s, still impervious to influence by the bishops, who are making many good changes in other departments?
 
Where have all the good sisters (nuns) gone? I don’t expect an answer, I was just longing for the good ole days.:nun2:
 
Where have all the good sisters (nuns) gone? I don’t expect an answer, I was just longing for the good ole days.:nun2:
Unfortunately, nuns were symbolic of free or low-cost Catholic education and total sacrifice to God, very little of what you will find today.
 
Much depends on what the definition of “sound” is. Being able to rattle-off and know the difference between the 7gifts of the Holy Spirit and the 12 fruits of the Holy Spirit accomplishes nothing unless the Faith is taught such that it is lived, not just memorized.
 
Much depends on what the definition of “sound” is. Being able to rattle-off and know the difference between the 7gifts of the Holy Spirit and the 12 fruits of the Holy Spirit accomplishes nothing unless the Faith is taught such that it is lived, not just memorized.
Yes, the legalistic v living out the Gospels.
 
Much depends on what the definition of “sound” is. Being able to rattle-off and know the difference between the 7gifts of the Holy Spirit and the 12 fruits of the Holy Spirit accomplishes nothing unless the Faith is taught such that it is lived, not just memorized.
It’s hard to live the faith when one does not even know what the faith is.
 
Much depends on what the definition of “sound” is. Being able to rattle-off and know the difference between the 7gifts of the Holy Spirit and the 12 fruits of the Holy Spirit accomplishes nothing unless the Faith is taught such that it is lived, not just memorized.
There might not be a much value of memorizing the 7 gifts or 12 fruits of the Holy Spirit, but if you look at the various polls, Catholics are woefully ignorant of some of the key teachings of their faith (or they just outright reject them):

Approx 1/3rd of Catholics don’t know or accept transubstantiation.
Approx 80% of Catholics think contraception is not sinful
Approx 50% of Catholics think abortion should be legal
Approx 50% of Catholics think same sex marriage should be legal

Nearly 50% of Catholics voted for a man who is a CHAMPION for 3 intrinsic evils!

Yes, a sound Catholic education is important, and we need teachers / leaders to live that faith (As opposed to teachers who openly live lives contrary to the faith).
 
Much depends on what the definition of “sound” is. …
Hello,

How about this as an indication of what is “sound”: “
Christian education takes in the whole aggregate of human life, physical and spiritual, intellectual and moral, individual, domestic and social, not with a view of reducing it in any way, but in order to elevate, regulate and perfect it, in (accord) with the example and teaching of Christ,” Cardinal Burke said, quoting Pope Pius XI.
Dan
 
Cardinal Burke always proves to be very perspicacious. He is a wonderful Cardinal.
 
While education is important, I am more of the mind with Peter Kreeft that what we need are saints. Historically, most spiritual renewals have revolved around a few that were capable of wholly giving themselves to God. I can see, however, proper parenting in the faith is the first step to raising up a generation of holy men and women.
 
That’s why some Catholic parents homeschool. And yes, it will take some effort for Catholic education to climb out of the rubble which began to build up in the 1970s. I was there. Catholic dissent was at its peak and damage was being done. It’s not about the good old days or just memorizing things. I still have a few of the books used in class from the period.

We had a separate Religion Class where it was all explained to us. For example, our and God’s connection to the world and life. We lived our faith daily as best we could, but that was upended by a defined group of people. The turnaround is occurring. All it takes is some dedicated and willing people.

Hope! God is with us.

Ed
 
For the most part, the Catholic schools in my area have become status symbols for those with the money to send their kids to them, especially the high-schools, which are all college prep schools.

All now have lay teachers.

The high-schools offer excellent education, but of course there is no band and other music programs and there are no Catholic trade schools.

So, if you’re kid isn’t inclined toward an academic career, they pretty much screwed if we follow the Cardinal’s ideology.

Jim
 
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