Cardinal denounces political push for open order

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abucs said:
What we are talking about is an ongoing situation involving the mass movement of an endless stream of millions of people that will destroy the harmony, culture and development of the countries which have been the model for advancement in our world.
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Forget about those whose harmony, culture, and why not every hope has been destroyed in their homelands.
Because they too exist.
 
We don’t let just anyone into the priesthood because we respect (or should respect) the office and position.

To let just anyone in the priesthood because we don’t want to discriminate against different views or because they need money or whatever is signing up to destroy the priesthood and mock the church and the person who built it - Christ.

To let just anyone into our countries because we don’t want to discriminate against different views or because they need money or whatever is signing up to destroy these countries and mock the people who built it - us and our families.
 
graciew said:
Forget about those whose harmony, culture, and why not every hope has been destroyed in their homelands.
Because they too exist.
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You don’t fix someone else’s culture and harmony by destroying your own. That is literally insane, which is what politically correct thinking is, an anti western insanity wrapped up in an authoritarian false morality.
 
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Not really.
It must boil down to the “ socialist” or the “ capitalist” whatever , as the rest of us wonder why it always has to come down to that.
Unless you really mean, that say what is going on in Myanmar ( or Syria)has anything to do with that for example
 
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graciew said:
Not really.
It must boil down to the “ socialist” or the “ capitalist” whatever , as the rest of us wonder why it always has to come down to that.
Unless you really mean, that say what is going on in Myanmar ( or Syria)has anything to do with that for example
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Don’t hide behind the ‘us’ tag. Political correctness is an anti western movement created and promoted by socialist orientated academics.

Socialists have shown by their history they create a false religion for the people emotionalising them against the prevailing culture and their economics is based on taking from a people that are denigrated if they resist. It is evil and the economics do not work and it destroys host countries. Mass migration to the west is simply one plank that is pushed by these people. It is evil and destructive wrapped up in a false morality.

I invite you to wake up to that fact. And it is a fact. Whether you have yet to understand it or not.
 
graciew said:
This you edited and I really do not know what you are referring to.
Just say it.
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You’re talking to me who is talking to you about mass migration destroying cultures and then you ask who is talking about mass migration destroying cultures.

Do you need any more clues?

Or perhaps people’s opinions are invisable unless they appear on politically correct tv shows?
 
I really do not understand you.
But that comes as a drawback I must admit with perhaps a mild language barrier. And I cannot always follow closely.
In any case, those mysterious hidden hands you may be referring to and whatever I may have to wake up to is…obscure to say the least.
I remain with Church teaching even if it is very difficult sometimes because it isn t always precisely the most comfortable.
 
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they are not hidden hands or obscure.

It is in plain sight grace. Please look for it.
 
Where do I start according to your suggestion?
Abucs, what or who are you talking about?
 
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Thank you for taking the trouble to look them up. I have only watched the first one and will watch the rest as I have time.
If… you are connecting this to the Church, which is yet unclear to me , let me say one thing: when you are committed to getting into a dangerous zone with the view of the innocent in mind, you will be treading a very fine line, and accepting you may be a target to be disgraced from both sides. Long before there was left and right, socialist and capitalist, there was Jesus. And Christian. And with eyes fixed on Jesus, and in His hands, we walk forward.

That doesn t mean that one isn t aware or is asleep, but fully awake and fully determined to carry out a mission we have been entrusted as witnesses of hope.
We will be treading a very fine line, and a highway at the same time.With the best and the worst of humanity. Inside and outside. And within ourselves.A struggle.

I apreciate you btw, and it has been years sharing here, Abucs.
When I said “ Just say it” , I didn t mean to challenge you but to spare you some discomfort and it helps me understand without much contorsions.
You have my word I will watch them and as open hearted and minded as possible.
Thanks again and have a blessed day.
 
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I have watched them all ,Abucs. Just wanted to let you know.
The one I found the most interesting was the Jordan one due to the variety of talking points he covered.
The BBC one was also interesting. This biased unbiased concept and how calmly this person developed it made his perspective quite clear
I do not know any of these characters nor can I judge the content much, but I also found interesting how you brought in Canada, Britain, US as was the pleasure to listening to a variety of accents as well.
 
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abucs said:
do you really need that question answered?

It should be obvious to you.
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It is obvious to me, and it isn’t Muslim immigration. We’re doing it all by ourselves (I include Canada, where I live, and Western Europe in this). We’ve allowed our culture to become detached from its foundational principles, i.e. Judea-Christian ethics. We have become unchurched. It’s not surprising that we now fear the invasion of hordes, not of infidels but of, surprise surprise, people with a strong faith system. Nature abhors a vacuum.

If we had a strong culture, we wouldn’t have to worry about Muslim (or Buddhist or Hindu) immigration, because we would be strong enough to not have to fear others we could live in a climate of mutual respect.

But we’ve weakened our own culture by throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

We need to get back to our own roots. Stopping Muslim immigration won’t fix the root cause. We’ll continue to flush our culture down the toilet on the altar of Me, Myself and I.
 
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And a birth rate below the replacement rate.
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I agree with you here. Canadians need to start having more children. I say this as a fellow Canadian. “Need more Canadians? We’ll make them ourselves.”
 
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