I completely understand. My confusion is if remarried person is able to go forward for a Blessing from the Priest and is not able to receive communion does that mean he is not excommunicated or is it the same thing?ie in both cases if you dont stop the adultery then you do not have full contrition…but why are they able to go forward for a Blessing?
Many thanks that clears the confusion completely and im able to articulate this better to my elder 2 boys who at 21 yrs are needing clear answers to their questions.
God doesn’t give up on anyone. …the result a return and repentance. Miracles happen to sinners and kathleen was thankful.
Exactly. And I should also think the Congregation for the Causes of Saints knows the Church’s law and can do proper theology.
So…the Catholic church has an “at fault” clause when it comes to divorce and remarriage?
No, it isn’t a matter of whose “fault” it is. An annulment is about whether there was a sacramental marriage (which is indissoluble) in the first place. Many factors come to bear on that question, too many to list here, but among them is whether the partners chose freely to enter marriage, and whether they knew what the Sacrament entails. If there was a valid marriage, then one cannot “remarry”, no matter how much one thinks on is “remarried”. That is what was called the state of adultery here. But that doesn’t mean that you can’t repent and end that state, which is what would have happened in the example of Kathleen.So…the Catholic church has an “at fault” clause when it comes to divorce and remarriage?
If one can prove to the church that their spouse was at fault in the marriage…the marriage can be annulled and you are free to remarry again???
Sorry…I think I need a little more detail to get me over the line with this.
Im not a priest and dont make decisions on anulment and marriage issues etc im just remarking on the link that states she returned to the Sacrements obviously after the decision of a priest…and im not going to argue with that! Whats clear is that she recieved amazing Grace and obviously thankful.So…the Catholic church has an “at fault” clause when it comes to divorce and remarriage?
If one can prove to the church that their spouse was at fault in the marriage…the marriage can be annulled and you are free to remarry again???
Sorry…I think I need a little more detail to get me over the line with this.
The “at fault” clause, as you put it, only applies to separation. If a person is not “at fault” he/she can separate,even divorce without committing a sin. It has nothing to do with any possible investigation of the marriage for an annulment.So…the Catholic church has an “at fault” clause when it comes to divorce and remarriage?
If one can prove to the church that their spouse was at fault in the marriage…the marriage can be annulled and you are free to remarry again???
Sorry…I think I need a little more detail to get me over the line with this.
Agree…But aren’t you curious? Many people find themselves estranged from the church through divorce and remarriage. This lady was in this same position and not only found her way back…but received a miracle as well. Aren’t you interested in the “how” and the application of Church Law re divorce and remarriage in this situation? It seems to me that God wants everyone despite our many failings…including those caught up in divorce/remarriage?
The trouble is we dont know all the details…what we dont know is whether she got a anulment or whether she could have done if applied before. Had her second husband been married and divorced or had he been a single man. Whatever kathleen returned to the sacraments afterwards so she obviously had absolution.God doesn’t give permission to sin. Im the youngest of 6 children and my mum’s first 2 from her first marriage. Im pretty sure the reasons for her leaving her 1st husband were not a lot more than she could do ‘better’. She married again to my dad but …and I dont know why she told me but she went to the docs pregnant with me to ask for an abortion but was refused. My mums not a christian so I had no faith upbringing. Cutting a long story short I am now Catholic and have a wonderful catholic husband with 8 kids. Now I could have the opinion that my mum would find it impossible to repent because I would not be here if she had not remarried . …God works through the mess and I pray for the hour of my mums death ( she is 80 yrs)that she comes to her senses as she has no faith and no joy…never has done. So through a def wrong situation im here and thankful for my life and family.But it is only through the witness of the catholic church that brought me in to a stable life and marriage…before becoming catholic I attended lots of different churches where divorce accepted and remarriage and to me the reasons become more and more trivial…its a downward spiral.sorry if this isnt a good answer.Agree…But aren’t you curious? Many people find themselves estranged from the church through divorce and remarriage. This lady was in this same position and not only found her way back…but received a miracle as well. Aren’t you interested in the “how” and the application of Church Law re divorce and remarriage in this situation? It seems to me that God wants everyone despite our many failings…including those caught up in divorce/remarriage?
I think we are all repeating ourselves now but my point is the church is spot on to not affirm divorce. Where I live in the children’s primary school most boys dont have a dad living with them or its a step dad that stays a while.divorce is an absolute mess. You are concentrating too much on kathleens story I think…its like saying because God healed her lung cancer its sometimes ok to smoke!!smoking can kill and so does divorce and thank God the catholic church stands up against all pressure to weaken .
Well put. Thank you for the clarity.