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JoshuaIsLord
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That maybe because the whole of Mass is Catholic. Catholics protect Catholics. “You write no law that might harm a Priest” mentality.He was not arrested or prosecuted because at the time there was no criminal statute that was applicable.
It has been said that some of the Lay are also responsible in the cover up. I remember reading this in this forum many many years ago.
There is also the mentality of some cultures that if your family produces a Priest than your family’s salvation is guaranteed through an everlasting indulgence.
There also have been other speculations, that if he was prosecuted, he might have broken the seal of the confessional to save his own arse.
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JoshuaIsLord
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I would speculate that, the Catholic Prosecutors might be afraid to prosecute a Cardinal in any form or shape.Aiding and abetting under the circumstances would have been almost impossible to show. Sooo, that’s why he wasn’t prosecuted.
NOTE there was civil liability - not a criminal violation.
There may not have been Mass Laws in place at the time, but there have been Federal Laws in place since the 1950s.
He may not have been charged with aiding/abetting, but he could have been charged with “Covering Up” or “Indirect/Passive Obstruction of Justice”
With that being said…well you can draw your own conclusions.
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vsedriver
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didn’t stop the pope from sending back other cardinals and bishops to face the music. All Boston had to do was bring charges and he would have been sent packing. They sent the cardinal back to Australia just recently.He was spirited away as the saying goes
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how do you know that the prosecutors were Catholic? Boston is not entirely Catholic you know.I would speculate that, the Catholic Prosecutors might be afraid to prosecute a Cardinal in any form or shape.
and if he had broken any Federal Laws then the Federal prosecutor would have issued an arrest warrant.There may not have been Mass Laws in place at the time, but there have been Federal Laws in place since the 1950s.
Apparently the prosecutors didn’t think they had enough evidence to charge him with anything. And with things so heated you would think they would go after him on the flimsiest charge.He may not have been charged with aiding/abetting, but he could have been charged with “Covering Up” or “Indirect/Passive Obstruction of Justice”
I believe that at the time there was insufficient evidence to charge Cardinal Law with committing a crime and insufficient laws to protect children which tied the hands of prosecutors. At the time people didn’t realize the scale of damage child molestation does to a child. That’s why the police were reluctant to do anything. That’s why lawmakers didn’t bother to make new law. Psychologists were telling us this could be cured. ( they were also telling people homosexuality could be cured). That’s why church leaders sought to have the guilty ‘treated’ and given second chances. And it is sad to say that parents also didn’t want things publicized and actually helped in the ‘cover up’.With that being said…well you can draw your own conclusions.
A greater judge than any earthly judge will handle Cardinal Law’s case.
As a society, we may be sadder now but we will be wiser too.
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tp3192000
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Are you kidding me? This was the 80’s. Of course people knew it was wrong to abuse children. Child molestation = bad even back then. What they didn’t know was the anger that would result from them covering up the crimes, moving offenders to other parishes, and paying out the hush monies from our sacrifices. There were plenty of warning signs prior to this final outbreak of poor decision-making by the leaders of our church.At the time people didn’t realize the scale of damage child molestation does to a child.
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“…the best I can.” What more could God ask? Forgiveness is a choice. Sometimes our emotions can’t be reconciled with our wills. I like the way you have expressed this.I forgive you the best that I can, Cardinal Law. May God forgive you and show you His Mercy.
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vsedriver
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It was the 80s when it was publicly found out but the abuse began decades ago and I never said that people didn’t know it was wrong to abuse children. What I said is they didn’t know the scale of the effect of the abuse so many, including law enforcement and families helped cover it up believing it was in the best interest of the child to move on and forget it.Are you kidding me? This was the 80’s. Of course people knew it was wrong to abuse children. Child molestation = bad even back then. What they didn’t know was the anger that would result from them covering up the crimes, moving offenders to other parishes, and paying out the hush monies from our sacrifices. There were plenty of warning signs prior to this final outbreak of poor decision-making by the leaders of our church
Yes, there was poor decision making on all who were involved from the church leaders on down to families. It’s no different than the women who were sexually harassed coming forward now. Everyone knew it was wrong but they all conspired to keep it quiet, even some of the women who took money in settlement cases.
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johnnykins
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Sorry, but I don’t think they gave a rat’s patootie about the children…it was all about the reputation of HMC and money. And yes, law enforcement were complicit in many instances. That’s no surprise at all. This wasn’t “poor decision making” it was a knowing cover-up to protect the guilty and the reputation of the Church.
Sorry, but blaming families is about as low as one could get. It’s a wonder that people with that opinion actually think of themselves as having a moral conscience.
Sorry, but blaming families is about as low as one could get. It’s a wonder that people with that opinion actually think of themselves as having a moral conscience.
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pnewton
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What is wrong with you people? This is about a person passing, not about getting a chance to defile the dignity of the dead. There are plenty of Church bashing threads on the internet. This is a Catholic site.
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JoshuaIsLord
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I tried to say the same on the Charles Manson Death Thread and the Hugh Hefner Death Thread.What is wrong with you people? This is about a person passing, not about getting a chance to defile the dignity of the dead. There are plenty of Church bashing threads on the internet. This is a Catholic site.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
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pnewton
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Why not throw Hitler in as well? We are speaking of a Catholic Cardinal. We should be trying to emulate the Holy Father in his attitude at his death. At least those of us that are Catholic should.I tried to say the same on the Charles Manson Death Thread and the Hugh Hefner Death Thread.
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tp3192000
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Sorry. Let him rest in Peace in the company of Jesus. And God bless Cardinal Sean O’Malley. Merry Christmas to all.What is wrong with you people? This is about a person passing, not about getting a chance to defile the dignity of the dead. There are plenty of Church bashing threads on the internet. This is a Catholic site.
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twf
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In other words, a glorified parish pastor.
It’s also not true, as the article says, that he held this position until his death. He retired as archpriest some years ago. For the past several years he’s simply been a retired cardinal living in Rome.
It’s also not true, as the article says, that he held this position until his death. He retired as archpriest some years ago. For the past several years he’s simply been a retired cardinal living in Rome.
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