Cardinal Müller issues Manifesto: A quasi correction of Pope Francis’ pontificate

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I do not stand in judgment of His Holiness but with the weight of the sex scandal upon the minds of the faithful, why this ?

Are Catholics not allowed to ask why ?
 
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I don’t think it’s a question of ‘rank’; and I don’t think Cardinal Mueller is trying to one-up or correct Pope Francis. If anything, I think that quite often it’s the media which tends to present or slant Pope Francis’ views and words to make it appear he is saying one thing, usually something that appears to ‘question’ long-established tenets of the Catholic faith, and that Cardinal Mueller is pointing out that he is doing no such thing, that what Pope Francis wrote can indeed be read and interpreted exactly as the Church has always taught, and that the media is wrong in implying that "the Pope is now saying X and ‘changing’ the Church teachings’ when he is not, could not, and will not.
 
The media did not pen and sign this.

“Freedom is a right of every person: each individual enjoys the freedom of belief, thought, expression and action. The pluralism and the diversity of religions, colour, sex, race and language are willed by God in His wisdom, through which He created human beings. This divine wisdom is the source from which the right to freedom of belief and the freedom to be different derives. Therefore, the fact that people are forced to adhere to a certain religion or culture must be rejected, as too the imposition of a cultural way of life that others do not accept.”
 
But not in line with Mortalium Animos

But more importantly, with the words of Christ Himself.

Jesus saith to him: " I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me."
 
Again, if one reads what was written as pertaining to the permissive will of God, it is in line with all Catholic teaching.

You aren’t saying that Pope Francis is disagreeing with Jesus, are you?
 
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You aren’t saying that Pope Francis is disagreeing with Jesus, are you?
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No, I’m confused. The document in question seems to be a diplomatic one. But why include religion ? The term itself.

Why do pious Churchmen question it ? I have to believe + Athanasius Schneider has a solid grip on the Faith. He points to some of the same passages of scripture that I see as contradicting this document.
 
Correct me if I am wrong. I think the key here is the idea that it is wrong to force someone to be Catholic.
 
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Correct me if I am wrong. I think the key here is the idea that it is wrong to force someone to be Catholic.
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You are not wrong; you are right on!

Because, it is not only wrong, but it might be arrogant, for people to assume non-catholics are more righteous…I think what the Holy Father was saying was we, and our allegiance to our traditional institutions are not equipped to judge others; only Christ is…and this is a good thing not only for non-Catholics, but for those of us who think we are more righteous than others in regards to the Gospel message!
 
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I have to believe + Athanasius Schneider has a solid grip on the Faith.
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I have to believe Pope Francis has a solid grip on the faith. I do not live under the churchman above.

I saw no direct conflict (if one word is nuanced) in the statement of Cardinal Muller and anything Pope Francis says. I have to reject the idea that this was done as a slam at the Pope. I think it is more of any idea of setting boundaries so that Catholics can understand that as the Church considers certain doctrines and how to proceed in the modern world, the limits remain the same.

Oh, and the part that is nuanced is it, “…it is understood…” Yes, what he said is understood by many in the Catholic Church to be a logical conclusion (a derivation from doctrine) of other teaching. However, at this point whether this is defined Church teaching is not something all Catholic theologians agree on.

I would rather say that the limits here are the actual doctrines that no one denies, not the conclusions, though these too may be defined this generation (or not).
 
I don’t understand why an iman would sign that document.

When did this term " permissive will " originate ?
 
Roma locuta est causa finita est!!! (Rome has spoken, the issue ended)…
 
Honestly when I read it I felt it was a manifesto or reminder that was a correction of deep rooted problems that have been going on for a very long time, and under many recent popes. Not for lack of trying for some pontificates and clergy on down I’m sure, but we as humans have to be reminded of the important things time and time again at times. I’d rather it just be taken to heart in general rather than twisted into just some petty slam on the pope.
 
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It is a shame that LSN had to twist the title from “manifesto” to “quasi-correction.” It is best to stick to Catholic sources.
 
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