Cardinal Sarah: Criticisms of Benedict XVI are ‘diabolical’

[friardchips]

In his book Last Testament (in interview format) Pope Benedict XVI was asked directly,

If Pope Emeritus says in his own words that it was a “misunderstanding” and that God did not tell him to stand aside then in that case it was a misunderstanding and God did not tell him to stand aside.

 

[friardchips]

Not that Pope Benedict should have resigned in the first place. For he certainly should not have.

The Papacy cannot, I think, be abandoned simply due to “health”. Besides, his health is fine now, for 90 years old.

It appears, as written in his own words, that Pope Emeritus did not have a mystical experience after all in which God told him to step down.

Nevertheless, if he took the decision to step down, then that is to be respected.

 

[graciew]

If Pope Emeritus says in his own words that it was a “misunderstanding” and that God did not tell him to stand aside then in that case it was a misunderstanding and God did not tell him to stand aside.

Whatever it is,listen to the following question and his answer on the same page
Q " Are you at peace with God? "
A" Indeed,I really am"

That is it…he is at peace with God.
Isn t that beautiful ?

 

[friardchips]

Whatever it is,listen to the following question and his answer on the same page
Q " Are you at peace with God? "
A" Indeed,I really am"

That is it…he is at peace with God.
Isn t that beautiful ?

Yes, most definitely!

Thank you for sharing that.

 

[MartinJordan]

Yes, most definitely!

Thank you for sharing that.

MJ

 

[unafraid]

Whatever it is,listen to the following question and his answer on the same page
Q " Are you at peace with God? "
A" Indeed,I really am"

That is it…he is at peace with God.
Isn t that beautiful ?

The Pope Emeritus gives his answer with assuredness and certainty. He is a man of dignity, and quiet confidence. Truly, his is an elevated spirit.

This quote should also, once and for all, put to rest all of the slanderous epithets hurled at Pope Francis, i.e.: “anti-Pope, heretic, false prophet, apostate, etc”.

Pope Emeritus Benedict most certainly would not be at peace with God if he believed his successor was unworthy, His peace is an endorsement of Pope Francis. For, were it otherwise, the Pope Emeritus would be a living, breathing lamentation. He is not…thankfully.

 

[twf]

The Pope, is the Pope, is the Pope, is the Pope, no matter who the Pope may be. Does anyone honestly think that Pope Francis and Pope Benedict XVI are as contentious with each other as their partisans on CAF are?

This Francis/Benedict nonsense makes me want to vomit. What is WRONG with you people?

The Pope is a man. There are marked differences in approach, style, and even theology (not matters of dogma - there is a wide spectrum of acceptable theological opinion / emphasis within the confines of orthodox Catholicism) between Benedict and Francis. I wasn’t pitting Francis against Benedict…if you re-read my post you’ll see my issue was with certain “progressive” prelates who have condemned what they perceive to be disobedience to Francis, but were silent when Benedict faced dissent.

 

[twf]

Not that Pope Benedict should have resigned in the first place. For he certainly should not have.

The Papacy cannot, I think, be abandoned simply due to “health”. Besides, his health is fine now, for 90 years old.

HH Benedict had every right to do what he did…as enshrined in canon law and as seen a few times previously in history.
The Pope is a bishop. A special bishop, but still a bishop. If it is now the norm in the Church for bishops to retire (a novelty to be sure), why not the Bishop of Rome?

 

[J_Peterson]

The problem is laity who refuse to submit to the spiritual authority of those appointed over them.

If you prefer a modern Mass, but your appointed pastor is traditional, you submit and attend a traditional liturgy. If you’re traditional, but your Bishop is a modernist, you attend a Novus Ordo.

It’s not that difficult, if you set your pride aside. A large portion of the problem is that people don’t know the difference between spiritual authority and democratic, civil authority. They want to be able to call up the Bishop and make demands, just like they would their city council. It’s repugnant.

That’s how I see it. Honestly I go to wherever is closest and whichever has mass at a time that’s convenient to me. Unless we get a priest that likes to have 2-3 hour masses or get’s too political (not likely in my part of New England) I’ll just keep going to the same place. Currently I have 4 in my city to pick from (there may be an Eastern Catholic Church but I’m not familiar with them).

 

[Brendan]

So, the Ordinary Form of the Mass (there is no such thing as the “novus order”)

In all fairness, that was the title given to the Mass when it was promulgated. While you are correct that “Ordinary Form” is the common name used by the Church now, the term “Novus Ordo” remains a valid one, as it is a term that has been used by the Church itself.

 

[twf]

In all fairness, that was the title given to the Mass when it was promulgated. While you are correct that “Ordinary Form” is the common name used by the Church now, the term “Novus Ordo” remains a valid one, as it is a term that has been used by the Church itself.

I think “Novus Ordo” is the term HH Francis has used a number of times.

 

[JPUSC]

With HH Francis on the throne of St Peter, the progressive wing of the Church is revelling in the phrase “papal supremacy” and are screaming “obedience!” Where were they when Benedict was faced with dissent?

 

[cthulhubryan]

You’re accepting hearsay - I am accepting words from the Holy Father himself.

Calming down. Important to read with glasses on so that Hearsay does not become Heresy