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Dan_Daly
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Are you standing? How much space do you take up?
Ok. now kneel…and stick your tongue out.
How much space do you take up now?
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Ok. now kneel…and stick your tongue out.
How much space do you take up now?
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TrueLight
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I don’t know. What do they do in the Eastern Churches?
I really wish we could go back to receiving both species if possible. Maybe there would be a way to indicate one needed the low-gluten species, or just the wine. I don’t know.
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eegardner
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In my Diocese we receive only the Body kneeling at TLM. At the NO Mass we receive both species and we see a variety of methods, most bow and receive in the hand, some bow and receive on the tongue, some genuflect and the receive standing (most that genuflect receive on the tongue) and a few receive kneeling. The only requirement that the clergy have expressed is that you must at a minimum bow before receiving. Because of Army injuries I can not kneel so I bow and receive on the tongue.
Because we receive both species at the NO, those that are allergic to gluten can bypass the Body and receive only the Blood. Or if they are a recovering alcoholic they can receive only the Body and bypass the Chalice.
Because we receive both species at the NO, those that are allergic to gluten can bypass the Body and receive only the Blood. Or if they are a recovering alcoholic they can receive only the Body and bypass the Chalice.
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benedictgal
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The amount of Precious Blood used for intinction is minuscle, to say the least.Guys, intinction doesn’t solve the problem for those who for any reason cannot have wine. So it actually is not a one-word solution.
I suppose a bifurcated communion rail could be established, so that those who partake of both species are on one side, those with one species on the other.
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BusterMartin
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I’m definitely in favor of intinction while kneeling. I personally think that’s the way to go. Just my two cents…
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Oneofthewomen
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But, none the less, it is wine, which contains alcohol, and there are some who cannot, for any reason have it.
Same goes for people who have gluten intolerances. For some, even the very low gluten hosts are not an option.
We know a lot more now, in the 21st century, about allergies, intolerances, etc. Why would anyone advocate going back to practices which may exclude people from receiving the greatest gift we can receive?
In the US at least, the Chruch has allowed us options. Do what you want and let me do what I want, how hard is that?
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JKirkLVNV
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I can’t find a link to the actually speech, but there is this, which was given as a link by the blogger you quoted:
kreuz.net/article.13469.html
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starsmurf
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As a convert, I have to say I really struggle with the practice of receiving on the tongue. It is pretty difficult to get used to and I am far, far more worried about dropping it. Why is reverently receiving Our Lord on my hand and carefully putting the Host into my own mouth wrong? The problems of passing on infections are increased if this happens too.
As I’m disabled, I would hate it if everyone had to kneel. I couldn’t for physical reasons. I’m not obviously disabled and I’m still quite young, so I would feel very embarassed. Also I don’t think someone who hasn’t had these kinds of problems from a young age could understand just how distressing it is to have to be “different” yet again. If this comes in, I will have people "tsk tsk"ing at me because they will think I’m refusing, not that I can’t.
If this does come in, are we going to have practice sessions with unconsecrated hosts? Are priests going to make announcements that people should remember that not every disabled person is obviously disabled and that they shouldn’t judge someone who doesn’t kneel?
I’ve had people prod me (painfully) in the back when I’ve had to sit down during the Gospel, or when reciting the Creed. Don’t tell me that if this comes in, they won’t do the same at communion. The “holier than thou” brigade will love this.
As I’m disabled, I would hate it if everyone had to kneel. I couldn’t for physical reasons. I’m not obviously disabled and I’m still quite young, so I would feel very embarassed. Also I don’t think someone who hasn’t had these kinds of problems from a young age could understand just how distressing it is to have to be “different” yet again. If this comes in, I will have people "tsk tsk"ing at me because they will think I’m refusing, not that I can’t.
If this does come in, are we going to have practice sessions with unconsecrated hosts? Are priests going to make announcements that people should remember that not every disabled person is obviously disabled and that they shouldn’t judge someone who doesn’t kneel?
I’ve had people prod me (painfully) in the back when I’ve had to sit down during the Gospel, or when reciting the Creed. Don’t tell me that if this comes in, they won’t do the same at communion. The “holier than thou” brigade will love this.
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Oneofthewomen
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It is NOT wrong and do not let anyone tell you that it is!!
I see that you are in Scotland. I don’t know too much about there rules there, but in the US, standing and receiving in the hands are valid options.
I agree! I have a problem with my left leg, so when I genuflect, I must go down it my left knee rather than my right. If I went down on the right knee, I could not get up without help. I have had many a “liturgy cop” tell me that ***“You are doing it wrong and should be ashamed!” ***To which I answer, ***“I’ll pray that you become more understanding of other people & their limitations.” ***
One would hope that there would be proper catechesis, but it is not always happening now, which is why we have Cardinals, Bishops, priests and lay-people call advocating “solutions” such as this!
This just makes my blood boil!! And How can anyone behave this way and still call themselves a Christian?Starsmurf, you just keep doing what you are doing and don’t worry about what anyone else has to say!
If & when the Church decides that communion is to be recieved kneeling & on the tongue only, by talking with your pastor, you will be able to work out something that is mutually acceptable, at least I would hope! 
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JKirkLVNV
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Well said.It is NOT wrong and do not let anyone tell you that it is!!
I see that you are in Scotland. I don’t know too much about there rules there, but in the US, standing and receiving in the hands are valid options.
I agree! I have a problem with my left leg, so when I genuflect, I must go down it my left knee rather than my right. If I went down on the right knee, I could not get up without help. I have had many a “liturgy cop” tell me that ***“You are doing it wrong and should be ashamed!” ***To which I answer, ***“I’ll pray that you become more understanding of other people & their limitations.” ***
One would hope that there would be proper catechesis, but it is not always happening now, which is why we have Cardinals, Bishops, priests and lay-people call advocating “solutions” such as this!
Starsmurf, you just keep doing what you are doing and don’t worry about what anyone else has to say!
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Irishgal49
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I totally agree with receiving on the tongue but I cannot kneel so that created a problem when I went to Latin Mass. After having reported a parishioner to the priest for “pocketing” a host I would love to see communion in the hand eliminated. I just wish I could kneel, I would love to be able to do that but receiving on the tongue makes it harder for people to “pocket” the host.
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JKirkLVNV
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If you speak to the priest before hand or ask an usher for help in relaying a message, there shouldn’t be a problem. My understanding is that you would be permitted to stand before the rail for reception.
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FromTheAshes777
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I still have never been able to figure out or understand why kneeling for Holy Communion is no longer the norm anyways…what was the reason that it changed?
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Pitcharan
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The Cardinal’s message is very clear to me. It is neither about kneeling nor about receiving on the tongue, but about gratitude, reverence and humble acknowledgement of our utter unworthiness
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Irishgal49
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I’m sure you’re right but the problem is “respect”. I even cover my hair in the sanctuary out of respect for the actual body and blood of Jesus but if I’m standing at the rail I’m going to feel like I’m being disrespectful. I am glad if they change it, just not sure if I will take it anymore if they do that.
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Oneofthewomen
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If I am reading this correctly, it makes me very sad.
Are you saying that if kneeling became mandatory, you would not receive communion because you couldn’t kneel?
Do you really think that this is what Jesus would want?
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Oneofthewomen
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MusicMan
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What Jesus would want versus what the liturgy cops would want? Cops win every time. Sad commentary on the state of the faithful.If I am reading this correctly, it makes me very sad.
Are you saying that if kneeling became mandatory, you would not receive communion because you couldn’t kneel?
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jeanannemarie
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It seems that Our Lord is also very impractical for many and also for most architecture today.
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MusicMan
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So, here’s the deal gang. My username is MusicMan for a reason. I go where the gigs are, regardless of denomination. If they pay, I’ll play.
Our ELCA-flavored Lutheran brethren? Receive on the knees at the rail. In every ELCA church that’s employed me or I’ve attended worship at (I have some family in the ELCA).
Our Episcopal brethren? For all the goofballness of the liberal side of them, and all the pathos this cause the conservative side, I’ve not yet played for an ECUSA parish that doesn’t receive on the knees at the rail.
What’s our deal? Many of their churches are configured in the traditional manner, many in the contemporary. Yet, they receive on their knees at the rail.
Our ELCA-flavored Lutheran brethren? Receive on the knees at the rail. In every ELCA church that’s employed me or I’ve attended worship at (I have some family in the ELCA).
Our Episcopal brethren? For all the goofballness of the liberal side of them, and all the pathos this cause the conservative side, I’ve not yet played for an ECUSA parish that doesn’t receive on the knees at the rail.
What’s our deal? Many of their churches are configured in the traditional manner, many in the contemporary. Yet, they receive on their knees at the rail.
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