Cardinal Sean O’Malley of Boston has said that were he to start a church he would “love to have women priests”

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(I wanted to note right away that Card O’Malley’s full quote is: “If I were founding a church, I’d love to have women priests, but Christ founded it, and what he has given us is something different.”, and that his comments are in support of the Church’s traditional teaching.)

catholicherald.co.uk/news/2014/11/17/omalley-if-i-were-founding-a-church-id-love-to-have-women-priests/

Cardinal Sean O’Malley of Boston has said that were he to start a church he would “love to have women priests”.

The outspoken remarks came during an interview with 60 Minutes on American television network CBS.

Asked by reporter Norah O’Donnell whether excluding women from the Church hierarchy was immoral, Cardinal O’Malley said, “Christ would never ask us to do something immoral. It’s a matter of vocation and what God has given to us.”

He said: “Not everyone needs to be ordained to have an important role in the life of the Church. Women run Catholic charities, Catholic schools … They have other very important roles. A priest can’t be a mother. The tradition in the Church is that we ordain men.”

He then added: “If I were founding a church, I’d love to have women priests,” O’Malley said. “But Christ founded it, and what he has given us is something different.”

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I saw that interview on 60 minutes.

I was stunned when I heard him say that. But then maybe it was to put a smile on the interviewers face, which makes the whole interview seem like a total joke.
 
In war, only a monster would allow women to die in combat in front of men. Any man worth his salt would gladly sacrifice his life to save a woman’s. Just as any woman worth her salt would gladly sacrifice her life to her children.

The woman is the heart of the family. The man is the protector of the family. The man dies for his family.

The priesthood is a sacrifice of a life to the bride of Christ, his Church, whom he has sworn to protect. Just like Christ. If the woman is forced to sacrifice herself instead of the man, the children are without their mother, the Church.

Christ came to earth as a man for a reason.
 
“Asked by reporter Norah O’Donnell whether excluding women from the Church hierarchy was immoral, Cardinal O’Malley said, “Christ would never ask us to do something immoral. It’s a matter of vocation and what God has given to us.””"
I didn’t see the interview, but that sounds like a totally impertinent question. She might as well ask whether excluding women from fatherhood is immoral, or whether excluding men from motherhood is immoral.

No, it is not immoral that women cannot be Fathers.
 
Now doesn’t it sound like Cardinal O’Malley is dissenting against Church teaching? Doesn’t it sound like another divisive rupture between a Catholic Cardinal and Rome?

Well it isn’t. It is a typical example of scurrilous headlining to make a Cardinal of the Catholic Church look radical and divisive.

I cannot express how repulsed I am by that sort of headlining and those who repeat it. :mad:
 
JimG said:
“Asked by reporter Norah O’Donnell whether excluding women from the Church hierarchy was immoral, Cardinal O’Malley said, “Christ would never ask us to do something immoral. It’s a matter of vocation and what God has given to us.””"
I didn’t see the interview, but that sounds like a totally impertinent question. She might as well ask whether excluding women from fatherhood is immoral, or whether excluding men from motherhood is immoral.

No, it is not immoral that women cannot be Fathers.
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Cardinal O’Malley is well aware of the type of show that Sixty Minutes is and knew he would be asked questions like this. Many people liken denying entry to the priesthood to women to denying it to minorities, and posing the question to Cardinal O’Malley was just something a journalist does. I thought his answer was brilliant; our ways are not necessarily God’s ways.

I found the piece to be pretty even-handed. They were very complimentary about his character and work but said quite plainly that he holds fast to the Church’s position on controversial matters.
 
LongingSoul said:
Now doesn’t it sound like Cardinal O’Malley is dissenting against Church teaching? Doesn’t it sound like another divisive rupture between a Catholic Cardinal and Rome?

Well it isn’t. It is a typical example of scurrilous headlining to make a Cardinal of the Catholic Church look radical and divisive.

I cannot express how repulsed I am by that sort of headlining and those who repeat it. :mad:
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Right. It seems to me that Cardinal O’Malley’s emphasis was on the part about it being about what Jesus did rather than what he would want. It doesn’t strike me as him declaring some deeply-held, forever unrequited desire. It’s just a manner of speaking: “If it were up to me…but it’s not up to me.”

The reaction to the quote does seem predictable, though.
 
ProVobis said:
I saw that interview on 60 minutes.

I was stunned when I heard him say that. But then maybe it was to put a smile on the interviewers face, which makes the whole interview seem like a total joke.
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I noticed the interviewer batting her eyes at him when she asked the question about women clergy. It was uncomfortabke just to watch. She made it weird.
 
Joe_5859 said:
Right. It seems to me that Cardinal O’Malley’s emphasis was on the part about it being about what Jesus did rather than what he would want. It doesn’t strike me as him declaring some deeply-held, forever unrequited desire. It’s just a manner of speaking: “If it were up to me…but it’s not up to me.”

The reaction to the quote does seem predictable, though.
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Agreed. That was my interpretation of his statement, Unfortunately it provided a poor headline.
 
McCall1981 said:
He then added: “If I were founding a church, I’d love to have women priests,” O’Malley said. “But Christ founded it, and what he has given us is something different.”
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Anglicans have women priests, so their interpretation of Scripture is different.
 
not sure what the point of a comment like that is, stirring the media pot? taking lesson’s out of Pope Francis’ playbook.
 
ProVobis said:
I saw that interview on 60 minutes.

I was stunned when I heard him say that. But then maybe it was to put a smile on the interviewers face, which makes the whole interview seem like a total joke.
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He DID NOT say women should be priests. He said (paraphrasing here, because I don’t recall the exact words) something about women having more influence in the Church.

I remember turning to my wife after he said it, saying, the secular media is going to turn this into him saying “Women should be made priests”, and my saying, “Worse, lots of people on CAF are going to jump to the wrong conclusions before the press!”

And, so it happened.🤷
 
bisco said:
why wouldn’t he want what Jesus wants?
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I took it more like, “If God put me in charge of creating the Church, this is what I would have chosen. But clearly I would have chosen incorrectly, because Christ can’t establish something immoral and he chose to have a male-only priesthood.”
 
Neofight said:
He DID NOT say women should be priests. He said (paraphrasing here, because I don’t recall the exact words) something about women having more influence in the Church.

I remember turning to my wife after he said it, saying, the secular media is going to turn this into him saying “Women should be made priests”, and my saying, “Worse, lots of people on CAF are going to jump to the wrong conclusions before the press!”

And, so it happened.🤷
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You, sir, are a prophet. 🙂
 
well, now we have two versions of what he said, and we aren’t even the media.😛
 
I don’t have any problem with Cardinal O’Malley’s response to the question.

He didn’t say the Catholic Church should have women priests, but that the Church was established by Jesus Christ and His will is to be done, not Cardinal Sean’s.

Jim
 
If I were to start a church I think I would have steak (well done of course, as God intends it) and beer instead of wine and bread.

But it isnt my church, so whats the point of such an observation.

I dunno, maybe its an Aspergers thing blocking what is obvious to everyone else.
 
Neofight said:
He DID NOT say women should be priests. He said (paraphrasing here, because I don’t recall the exact words) something about women having more influence in the Church.

I remember turning to my wife after he said it, saying, the secular media is going to turn this into him saying “Women should be made priests”, and my saying, “Worse, lots of people on CAF are going to jump to the wrong conclusions before the press!”

And, so it happened.🤷
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Very astute, Neofight. I have a game like that where I look at the name of the original poster and the topic heading on the front page and then think of what the true story might be before opening the scandalised thread topic.
 
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